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Black Sun: Salvation (Available for viewing)

Black Sun: Salvation (Available for viewing)

This is what I've been working on. View in Original at fullscreen for best effect.

BLACK SUN: SALVATION

(Direct link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSucsRDKvuU )

 

(Old episode 0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0ZmMkdB5eM )

 

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 This project is intended to be used as a medium for recording the Black Sun Episodic videos. Episode 1 is likely to be the last of the episodes, with 0 being the first. The gameplay-related aspects of the project are barebones and only to facilitate the production of video media. The game is too limited for my designs elsewhere.

The project will not be released as a mod. However, SFX work is released as a part of the Black Sun SFX pack. When Episode 1 is finished, the Episode 1 variant of the pack will be available. This SFX pack does not function stand-alone, it is intended to assist developers in fleshing out their projects.

I do not take requests or commission offers.

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Reply #151 Top

It is done. Let this legacy, at long last, rest.

 

View in 1080p or Original at Fullscreen for the intended effect. And set aside some time. It's 52 minutes of exploding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSucsRDKvuU

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Reply #152 Top

I salute your brilliance XD freaking awesome stuff IskatuMesk. 

Reply #153 Top

SmileySmileySmiley Great job....Awesome....

Reply #154 Top

In hindsight

A day has passed since I finally managed to create the final encode for Black Sun, and slowly, my psychological veil will deteriorate and I will return to the way I was a few months past. The deep recess I had forced myself into to produce this project, to endure the hardships of its final week, will diminish and I will become somewhat human again.

I look back upon Black Sun with the same ever-merciless, judgmental gaze I bear upon all aspects of creation, and though I have already gone through much of the project's creation and the struggles and shortcomings related, I wish to point out many things I wish I could have done better.

Plot

Black Sun: Salvation, as a conceptual novel, is the second novel in the Black Sun saga. Salvation focuses entirely on what in the video is the act 2 section. But both novels have a tremendous amount of history, mechanics, characters, and other related content that were created for them over the years. Almost none of this makes it into the video, but instead elements of some relation were bastardized in their place.

I chose this path for several reasons. The first and foremost was because I had absolutely no way to represent any of the other elements. Not being a character modeler, I can't model any of the characters or simulate any interactions. Adashim and the Fear's interactions, charactized simply as darkness and the red eye in the video, are hugely butchered to fit the bill of the video. While I thought I was being clever at the time, I couldn't build the video around this example.

The memory sequence shortly before Act 2 begins is the most lore-heavy aspect of the entire video and one of the only parts that uses true to canon elements. It was also one of the first segments to ever be finalized in terms of content. Is it not clear how I let slip the quality from there on? It should be.

While I initially intended to project to have many more character-related elements in it, especially for Adashim, I never attempted any. I had no means to do so. What was I going to show for Adashim? A ship? Please. There's no mention of Haktish at all in the video, who is the lead Anahn character, a blood-son and the grand admiral of the Royal fleet. I couldn't voice act him and knew no one who could pull a convincing choice. The entire relationship of the Prince, the Vice, and the Fear is entirely lost on the whole production and will never be experienced by any viewers. A huge element of the story's psychological impact is completely neglected.

I feel this is a tremendously wounding blow to the production on a lore standpoint, because although Black Sun has a lot of scale and a lot of space warfare to it, at its heart it's about a few select characters as they seek to control the events of the future. The Fear, whose name is only spoken by Xul`Amon near the end of the video, is left entirely out of context for the whole production and whose only presence is shown as a voice and the red eye. This makes sense from a writing production because in a writing production you can make such a thing so simple and pull it off very, very well. As a stand-alone video, this is suicide.

The name Xul`Amon is never mentioned in the video, and the name Xy`Kranasha is only given once. When I laid out the dialogue for this video as I did, I intentionally chose to start avoiding plot elements as much as possible. While Black Sun as a video maintains a tiny excuse of a "plot", it was designed as a stand-alone, "inspired by" Black Sun as opposed to actually forge an effort of telling Black Sun's story. I consciously abandoned the prospect of telling Black Sun's story after I had made the memory sequence, because I knew I'd be looking at a multi-hour video demanding years upon years of CGI work I had no possible way to make.

This decision has the balance in that the video will never make sense to anyone but me and maybe Killer  11 and that's literally it. I can't even properly quantify how other people would perceive it, much less in the mental state I was/am in. I had become so enormously desensitized to the entire video that I think I completely lost sight of whatever the hell it was I was originally aiming for. I struggle to consider that I even had a real goal in mind, other than building from Episode 0 but with dialogue.

But, that's the thing, you see. This was basically Episode 0, but with Xy`Kranasha. Maybe the first pitfall was choosing to include ANY dialogue elements. I was encouraged to do so by Killer  11, under the premise that even if they didn't make sense, they would add at least some character to the video. This played on my shoulders two challenges;

- Making the dialogue flow into the video without breaking the pace and motion.
- Voicing that dialogue in a believable manner.

The first was attained by the aforementioned balance. I chose a more subtle way of telling the video's "plot" rather than a direct approach. If you read the dialogue out very carefully, place it together, take a few things literally, you'll probably see what it was I tried to do. Or maybe not, because I don't know if people can see things the way I do. But by doing this almost no one would get it the first time even if they're really bright and partly familiar with the writing. This was doubly suicidal because no one in my audience is even slightly familiar.

I accepted this defeat knowingly and wittingly, in the knowledge that the video would come off as another "video about ships shooting each other for no reason". In such an instance, I accept that its purpose is more or less a demonstration of my content I created for Sins of a Solar Empire, in which I feel the video can stand on its own in achieving. If you try to look at it as a story or a movie, it won't hold up even for a second.

This is where the second element, the voice acting, and the presentation, will fail.

My decision to keep the damaging segments like the UD hell segment preluding Feast was made in error. I thought I could recover those parts and make them fit with the video despite the limitations of my abilities, but in hindsight this was not a good idea. I think the smarter choice would have been to embrace the concept of a "mod" video more than a "movie" video. By having the video associate with some plot elements but not enough to make due, I introduced an expectation and an obligation that was not filled, even in the video's conclusion.

The voice acting, which rested almost entirely on my shoulders, came as a burden, and a challenge. I welcomed the challenge, but I think I met the limits of my acting potential very soon. In trying to voice every Anahn character, members of a gruff and brutal race whose voices I had very hard times even imagining, I was setting myself up for major fail. I think that while any given voice, except for maybe the odd English screwup I let slide, can stand on their own in some manner, as a whole they mesh together too much. My choice to make due with edits and filterings to tell them apart made sense to me in my state of mind, where it was easy for me to decipher. But, in the presentation to an unfamiliar individual, it's not likely to make much difference.

I foresaw this particular flaw in my plan ahead of time but consciously chose to go with it anyways for the simple fact I had no choice. What was I going to do, not voice the characters? I didn't know anyone who could even come close to the level of emotion I had, and with the way my writing was changing all the time, I had to have voices on the spot and immediately available for change in the likely circumstance the dialogue was altered, so I could hear them alongside the music and shift accordingly.

What all of this equates to is that I personally feel the plot aspect of Black Sun: Salvation, as a video, is the greatest failure of the entire thing. It is a greater failure than the limitations of sins or my abilities as a modeler. I don't feel that it's a failure because I made errors in my execution, but rather because the execution itself was fundamentally flawed. I acknowledge that the choices I made were made in the knowledge I would ridicule the shit out of them immediately after, and that I would be very mad at myself for making those choices. I also acknowledge that these decisions were made in a time of great mental strife and immense stress, and that looking back and second-guessing those decisions is easy now only because I am on the other side of the fence.

Composition

I think I would have done a much better job if I had chosen to try to structure the fights. My recordings are a mix of staged events and recordings of skirmishes. While this is perfectly fine for a "mod" video, if we take into context my inclusion of dialogue and half-assed cinematics, one would conclude that choosing random battle footage to accompany them was a colossally bad idea, because it would only serve to skew the information motion that much further.

While I would love to blame myself for this failure I can only partly blame myself, because the difficulties in recording forced me into a challenging corner and I doubt many could have crawled out of it in similar circumstances. Still, it was my decision to move forward with what I had, and I didn't have the patience to keep recording until I got something similar to what I really wanted. I ultimately let the video slide with subpar recordings, especially in Act 1 and the first half of act 2. The Fortress and Emperor segments are in my eyes amongst the best in the entire production and only because they are structured, while the remainder are very random and unstructured.

It seems to me that I aimed for a "mod video" with a combination of dialogue and plot presentations while still trying to remain distant and un-obligated for providing a foundation for any scrutiny into these subjects. Thus, I see a split in feedback much as I predicted I would. A general consensus of confusion is reached and my predictions resound to the letter. However, I wish I did not foresee such a thing, because in doing so I consciously allowed my quality control to slip and I did not deliver what it is I wanted to deliver.

While Black Sun's completion means a lot to me as an action, an action that proves to myself I can fight a horrible battle unto the end, the lengths I had to take to bring it to completion terrify me, frankly. I don't mean the physical actions I took, but rather the amount of content I allowed myself to totally ignore and how completely de-sensitized to my work I became.

Sure, I'm one guy, and people always tell me about how one guy can only do so much, but I know I could have done better if only I was a little bit stronger, a little bit more patient, and a little bit less stupid.

At the same time, though, Black Sun was a venture into otherwise completely foreign waters. While I'm not inexperienced with game design, modding, or making videos, the effort of mashing all of this into a video production on the level I wanted to produce was completely new territory. All of these elements entered the arena but didn't quite meet each other in the middle, and I lost sight of my goals with the project. I do not plan to attempt anything of a similar nature ever again.

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Reply #155 Top

Poor Iskatu, he feels that he is inadequate, and yet his work is beyond my scope of possible skills...

*sigh*

I understand that you can't express much of your epic's story and background, but you got an astonishing amount of content into this herculean effort, and you will certainly be remembered as "that one guy who did that one movie."

I hope that you will be successful in your next endeavor.

 

-Unimportant Gripes-

"Thee" misuse?

Are you using "thee" correctly? "Thee" takes the place of "you" only when used demonstratively...

"Thou" is probably what you were after...

I might be ignorant, if so, please educate me.

 

I love your camera angles and the way that you portray combat, you are an inspiration for my stupid work!

I will probably make a preview movie when I am satisfied with my work...

Reply #156 Top

Finally got around to watching the entire thing, great work. If getting people to see it matters at all to you I might spam it on the Sins facebook so Stardock can just how much work people have put into their game.

Reply #157 Top

Quoting KrdaxDrkrun, reply 155


-Unimportant Gripes-

"Thee" misuse?

Are you using "thee" correctly? "Thee" takes the place of "you" only when used demonstratively...

"Thou" is probably what you were after...

I might be ignorant, if so, please educate me.

 

I love your camera angles and the way that you portray combat, you are an inspiration for my stupid work!

I will probably make a preview movie when I am satisfied with my work...

Sorry, I apologize for not seeing this edit any sooner (only Goa's post updated the thread).

 

I don't think my use of English is very good. It is more than likely I am incorrect in many ways, more than just my use of Old English words (some of the Emperor's speech made me cringe but I let it slip due to exhaustion).

Camera angles are all about wrestling sins in the mud. I started using arrow keys in addition to the mouse at the same time and with this I was able to achieve more stability than I had in Episode 0 but still wish there was a way to "smooth" the camera since even when I set my mouse to lowest DPI it was very jerky.

 

Understand that I took dozens of hours of recordings for each MINUTE of footage that actually made it into the composition.

 

Goa > Go ahead sir. :3

Reply #158 Top

Really well done.  I bet you could get this onto Netflix.  A lot of indie films are there--including flip page "movies" from graphic novels and the like. Yours certainly beats many of them.

Reply #159 Top

I have released a video featuring 20 minutes of voice work from Black Sun, including a large amount of material that did not make it into the video or was recorded purely for practice.

Reply #160 Top

Bump, because Black Sun is cool.

Reply #161 Top

Here strides the Blood-Prince Adashim, he who considers himself a God, he who cloaks himself in the ashes of his kin to hide his wings. True to you title, you soak yourself in the blood of your forefathers, sealing them to the Ruby Keeper's crypt, taking from them their lineage and future! A forgotten kingdom with an empty throne whose idle crown laid only at your fingertips! So you strode, so you reached, but Fate did menace, the universe did weep, for thy crown was cursed, and you would crumble as all others have crumbled. Take your empty throne with vacant eyes, blood-prince, claim your victory!

You were smarter than that, weren't you? You smashed your cursed crown, casting its blessing aside. But he knew you would do this. He saw in your eyes the arrogance that escapes your infinite wisdom. The crown turned on you, and gave you what you least desired - life. A kingdom alive once more. The Sons of God. You took this blessing with reluctance but took it no less, driving forth these children into an unequalled age of prosperity! Yet, feeble were their hearts, for the crown's thorns forever menaced whatever path you strode. Your greed, your defiance, your hesitation - a hymn that needed only be sung to give fire to the soul of the Anahn. The Song of War. To be granted audience to such a magnificent orchestra, whose instruments were tuned to only but the finest elegance! The Sons of God tore down their altars and decrees, and thrashed at one another to claim the empty throne!

Alas, the Prince is most stubborn. Still you clung to your infinite dreams of grandeur, still you refused to accept the lessons the Hunger taught you. You forever sought it out, resisting the call of your lineage, as though seeking to tear life from that which has no life, trying to unravel the noose around your neck. A noose threaded in the flesh of your brothers and sisters, drenched with the blood of your precious Anahn. You gave in to your delusions, and sought to purge your pets of their faithless defiance in a new crusade. Was it not satisfying, Adashim-prince? To rinse thy weary fingers in the life-essence of men once more? Who could revel in such madness as luxuriously as the devil itself? You heard his call, even now, and sacrificed to him as though you were pounding on his forsakem doors with your very own fists! You struck blindly in all directions, furiously seeking reasoning for what could not be reasoned! Anahn screamed, wept, drowned in their own blood before your wrath! Sons of God indeed! The Anahn learned a hard lesson at your hands. To stand in the path of Hunger, to defy the motion of Fate, they paid a toll most dire. Even in their most glorious moment, the Anahn still stumbled in their step, and you intervened without hesitation. The Black Squadron, your most sacred sons, fell before your blade the moment they heard the song's chorus. The Lost Fleet. That is what you called them then. Yet such culling was necessary, was it not? You dared not risk the Anahn machine growing anxious without blood to shed, did you? The Song of War was every much your instrument as it was the Hunger's. Such was the mechanism your kingdom was built upon, was it not? Yet you were not the first to set the machine in motion. Nay, that honor was given only to the grand architect who set you on your path! You were but a cog yourself, scarcely able to keep yourself in line, scarcely able to serve your nameless master! Bleat and struggle as you may, you set yourself in his footsteps regardless! Like the sheep you slaughter to sate your hunger for but a breath.

Is it that you envy the mechanism, Adashim? Do you desire to become one with Hunger? Do you dream of shedding the crown and throne? The responsibility of individuality? Perhaps. Perhaps you seek to replace that mechanism. Perhaps you seek to become the motion of death itself. You focus your ire unto Fear, thinking that I can grant you salvation from your momentary breath of existence. So you sought me out, striking at me with your glorious crusade! But it was not Fear you found, was it? Nay. It was Faith. The One Faith. Hell awoke to your summons, besetting upon you with the mishappen carcasses of your lost sons. At first, such a motion seemed madness. Why would you give in to your self-hatred so easily? But I saw the genuis in your madness. Only I could. You were teasing me, weren't you Adashim? Teasing yourself. As though to gamble it all... but you knew you already had the answers you desired. The Sons of God would bear the weight of your greed once more! The Prince of Blood to redeem his sanctity through sacrifice! Such a glorious occassion it was!

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We met you at the Jordan. There we stood, and there you fell.

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Ah, but you are mistaken, Adashim, to believe that it was I who your divine justice was delivered upon. I merely observed, and indeed, relished your transcension. You became more than a Prince that hour. Even Mal`Ash would have envied the ruin you left in your wake. I always knew you were special, Blood Prince. I do so enjoy your chats. I wouldn't allow you to leave me so easily.

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You mean to imply that you interfered with the battle? Threw away your fleets just so you could continue to harass me in my dreams?

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The Hunger burns strongly in thy heart, Adashim. It carries you with every step in your pilgrimage to absolution.