ATTN: Brad and Jon

Do you guys ever feel guilty about all the people who spent their hard earned money to buy the respective terrible games you helped make and hype? I imagine the guilt isn't quite at the level of war criminals, but it's definitely more than say people who commit petty crimes. Does it keep you up at night? How do you manage it? I imagine you probably lie to yourselves a lot.

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do we really need this drama ? sigh.

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Do you guys take comfort in each other? Like "you're a bad dev, I'm a bad dev, lets talk about our bad dev feelings together." I imagine Brad can talk about how he actually got people to pay for a game that literally wasn't finished while Jons can be all "at least no one really expected much from your game, I did my part to kill a series that has been beloved for over a decade." Then you two snuggle up and ironically watch a bad movie together to ease away the pain. How close to the mark am I? Do your eyes ever meet for just a second until one of you blushes and looks away, ruining the moment?

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ATTN: Myself.

You have wasted one minute of your life reading this post.

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Quoting Glowing_Ember, reply 1
do we really need this drama ? sigh.

 

What drama? This a place, a magical place, a WONDERFUL place, where we can talk about our feelings and air out or grievances. Its good to bring things into the open like this. If you pent it up, it just comes out in other, unhealthier ways.

Jon, do you ever feel bad that you're still working a cushy job while all those Firaxis dudes got fired? I mean, they're all back out their, hustling, doing what they do to stay afloat in this economy while you get a chance to ruin another game and more games in the future. Do you feel that's fair? They want to ruin games to you know. Was ruining Civ 5 a team effort before they were all given the boot, their prospects suddenly dimmed for themselves and their families? Or was it more of a solo effort?

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Quoting LightofAbraxas, reply 3
ATTN: Myself.

You have wasted one minute of your life reading this post.

I am truly sorry you feel that way! However, please note that this is a thread to bring things to the ATTN of Brad and Jon. Perhaps there's a more personal space within which you can bring things to the ATTN of yourself? I recommend a diary.

Brad, does it feel good working somewhere where you can make a self admittedly terrible project and still remain gainfully employed? That's some job security! Where can I apply to your wonderful if charmingly incompetent organization? Is hiring Jon a conscious decision by your employers to water down the talent at Stardock even more than hiring you already was?

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How often would you guys say you have actively lied in the service of your respective bad games? Did it get easier every time you did it until it was stranger to actually tell the truth, or did each time send signals flying in your brain meats? Is it deceitful to keep stringing people along with the hope that each of your respective bad game may one day resemble a product that wasn't put out to troll your fans? I feel that in our sin cursed earth it's okay to bend the truth a little. If they believed you, well, it's their own fault, isn't it?

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Quoting BROHEIMICUS, reply 5

Quoting LightofAbraxas, reply 3ATTN: Myself.

You have wasted one minute of your life reading this post.
I am truly sorry you feel that way! However, please note that this is a thread to bring things to the ATTN of Brad and Jon. Perhaps there's a more personal space within which you can bring things to the ATTN of yourself? I recommend a diary.

Brad, does it feel good working somewhere where you can make a self admittedly terrible project and still remain gainfully employed? That's some job security! Where can I apply to your wonderful if charmingly incompetent organization? Is hiring Jon a conscious decision by your employers to water down the talent at Stardock even more than hiring you already was?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swrV9fFORas

 

Is this you?

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Quoting scratchthepitch, reply 7

Quoting BROHEIMICUS, reply 5
Quoting LightofAbraxas, reply 3ATTN: Myself.

You have wasted one minute of your life reading this post.
I am truly sorry you feel that way! However, please note that this is a thread to bring things to the ATTN of Brad and Jon. Perhaps there's a more personal space within which you can bring things to the ATTN of yourself? I recommend a diary.

Brad, does it feel good working somewhere where you can make a self admittedly terrible project and still remain gainfully employed? That's some job security! Where can I apply to your wonderful if charmingly incompetent organization? Is hiring Jon a conscious decision by your employers to water down the talent at Stardock even more than hiring you already was?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swrV9fFORas

 

Is this you?

I certainly wish! If I was a magic (if strangely inclined to the profane) British maid things would be different around here.

When you guys go about making a bad game, do you just go with your instincts? Or is a more deliberate thought process involved? I assume that making bad games is your goal, as one game barely qualifies as a beta while the other actively ignored all the progress that has ever been made in its series. Is there a reason to make bad games? Do your bosses get to deduct the costs on their taxes or something? What do you guys get out of it?

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Hi BROHEIMICUS,

I mean this sincerely, so take it how you will.

At first I thought it was amusing, but then the full impact of toxic pettiness and vitriol hit me.  I don't know how terrible one's life must be to write something like this, but it is definitely alarming and somewhat depressing. 

If you are feeling such anger and resentment towards two guys you don't even know, over what is essentially a light and meaningless hobby, then I strongly suggest you get some professional counseling.  This is not something a healthy person should do.  Maybe you need to be a little less concerned about video games, and put a little more time into getting your life back on track.

Good luck and best wishes.

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Oh man, just shut up.

Here's your options. Keep on going like this and get banned. Be quiet and sulk. If you don't like the game come back in a while and see if it's ok then. Other than that, either give ideas here or don't.

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Oh dear! It seems I have wandered into the cuddle forum. It appears we don't hold people accountable for being literal sleaze here. Can you gentlemen point me to the appropriate forum? I seem to be a bit lost!

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Quoting rwemack, reply 9
...what is essentially a light and meaningless hobby...

Phew, I was starting to get concerned that the internet was being taken over by crazy people who taking gaming way too seriously.

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Such a meaningless hobby to care about too! The prices charged, the hours invested. Who would care about these things? I'll tell you: the mad, the deranged, the radical maligned and unsavory internet creeps, surely posting from their mothers' basements. Only such people do things like "form negative opinions" and then "convey them to others through the medium of the electronic word." Perhaps even with a tinge of vitriol, their words inflected with dreaded emotion in a cold logical rational unfeeling universe. A wretched hive of scum and villainy if I ever saw one!

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Do you guys ever feel guilty about all the people who spent their hard earned money to buy the respective terrible games you helped make and hype? I imagine the guilt isn't quite at the level of war criminals, but it's definitely more than say people who commit petty crimes. Does it keep you up at night? How do you manage it? I imagine you probably lie to yourselves a lot.

You don't have the guts to do the same to "non internet" stuff. A pitty.

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It's certainly a "pity" that you can't form a coherent idea with the words you type! I'll reserve my feelings of getting owned by your sheer wit until after you type that post up in such a way that a person other than the one that exists in your head can understand it.

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Yo bro I'm happy for you having your opinion and all, but all of us here like Elemental just fine and know that Brad and Jon are human and we see Brad doing his damnedest to make Elemental a better game. With this knowledge, it's quite clear that you couldn't possibly be attempting to accomplish something real here, and thus must merely be trolling. Therefore I've reported you, and while I generally loathe the stifling of discussion, I will not mourn this thread.

@EmersonPF: If these forums provided an option to have one's post refrain from bumping a thread, I would use it. Sadly, it does not and therefore this thread is unlikely to fall away prior to moderator action.

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Quoting EmersonPF, reply 17
Reduced 85%Original 700 x 400

I agree. I apologize for responding to so many blatant trolls. I'll get things back on track.

Brad, was it you who wrote all those journals about how elemental was boring broken garbage? If so it was cool that you were so honest. If only Jon was as well! But then welp out came Elemental and ya'll actually charged people money for it. Was that just a mistake? Did you guys release by accident and then forget to recall it and refund everyone's money? What a mix up! I hope you guys get your house in order for your next big release of bad game, cause this is just a bit embarrassing!

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Quoting Cruxador, reply 18
Yo bro I'm happy for you having your opinion and all, but all of us here like Elemental just fine and know that Brad and Jon are human and we see Brad doing his damnedest to make Elemental a better game. With this knowledge, it's quite clear that you couldn't possibly be attempting to accomplish something real here, and thus must merely be trolling. Therefore I've reported you, and while I generally loathe the stifling of discussion, I will not mourn this thread.

@EmersonPF: If these forums provided an option to have one's post refrain from bumping a thread, I would use it. Sadly, it does not and therefore this thread is unlikely to fall away prior to moderator action.

Wow, I didn't know actual censors posted on these forums! Where are you from, friend? China? North Korea? I'd bet you'd do great as one of those broadcasters who assure everyone that everything is just fine and you should just keep doing what you're doing. Do you guys have to go to school for that by the way? It seems like a good job so long as you can keep to the party line. I wonder if there's an official title too?

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Oh boy, this is like a second Christmas!

Do you guys ever feel guilty about all the people who spent their hard earned money to buy the respective terrible games you helped make and hype? I imagine the guilt isn't quite at the level of war criminals, but it's definitely more than say people who commit petty crimes. Does it keep you up at night? How do you manage it? I imagine you probably lie to yourselves a lot.

Based on your assumptions, I can safely estimate that your knowledge of the Video Game industry rests somewhere between 'nothing' and 'shit all', much like your intelligence.  Do you have any idea who's 'responsible' for the aspects of the games you don't like?  No.  Do you have any idea how to correct these issues?  No.  Do you have any constructive advice and feedback to offer the developers in order to help the game meet your expectations?  Clearly not.  What are your issues?  What are the problems you have with their games?  Judging from what you've written in this thead, you don't actually have any; you've stated none.  You've simply pulled your fingers out of your ass and decided to write a pointless thread about topics well beyond your mental capacity to understand.

If you insist on clogging the internet with your lack of intelligence, please do so elsewhere.  I don't know who you are, and frankly I don't care; you're a moron.  You have no reason to be speaking to anyone, let alone the developers of video games.  You're the example people point to when they describe internet, and indeed human, scum in general; your a life lesson, to which children should look to when asking 'what shouldn't I do'.  Please, fuck off.

...Wow, I didn't know actual censors posted on these forums! Where are you from, friend? China? North Korea? I'd bet you'd do great as one of those broadcasters who assure everyone that everything is just fine and you should just keep doing what you're doing. Do you guys have to go to school for that by the way? It seems like a good job so long as you can keep to the party line. I wonder if there's an official title too?

Your sense of entitlement is simply mind boggling; do you understand the words you've written here?  Do you understand what it is you've said?  Judging from your sentence structure, and general tone, no - you don't have a single clue about anything you're attemping grapple with.  You're a moron who watched Glenn Beck, and believed that you've formulated an opinion about something.  I honestly cannot believe people like you survive child hood; you should've died wondering into traffic, because your lack of cognitive reasoning simply defys logic.  Please, educate yourself and return here when you actually understand the subjects you're pretending to understand.  In the mean time, please confine yourself to the World of Warcraft forums, they'll be most accomodating to your there - just like all the little babies who think they deserve something for having been born.

And please, don't speak to me.  You talking to me is like a maggot attemping communication with a human being; entirely pointless.  Take your unintelligent, uneducated half-opinions and sense of entitlement and crawl back into whatever whore-house you crawled out of. And, just so we're entirely clear: fuck off, you rancid sack of pig shit.

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Quoting ZehDon, reply 21
Oh boy, this is like a second Christmas!

Do you guys ever feel guilty about all the people who spent their hard earned money to buy the respective terrible games you helped make and hype? I imagine the guilt isn't quite at the level of war criminals, but it's definitely more than say people who commit petty crimes. Does it keep you up at night? How do you manage it? I imagine you probably lie to yourselves a lot.

Based on your assumptions, I can safely estimate that your knowledge of the Video Game industry rests somewhere between 'nothing' and 'shit all', much like your intelligence.  Do you have any idea who's 'responsible' for the aspects of the games you don't like?  No.  Do you have any idea how to correct these issues?  No.  Do you have any constructive advice and feedback to offer the developers in order to help the game meet your expectations?  Clearly not.  What are your issues?  What are the problems you have with their games?  Judging from what you've written in this thead, you don't actually have any; you've stated none.  You've simply pulled your fingers out of your ass and decided to write a pointless thread about topics well beyond your mental capacity to understand.

If you insist on clogging the internet with your lack of intelligence, please do so elsewhere.  I don't know who you are, and frankly I don't care; you're a moron.  You have no reason to be speaking to anyone, let alone the developers of video games.  You're the example people point to when they describe internet, and indeed human, scum in general; your a life lesson, to which children should look to when asking 'what shouldn't I do'.  Please, fuck off.

...Wow, I didn't know actual censors posted on these forums! Where are you from, friend? China? North Korea? I'd bet you'd do great as one of those broadcasters who assure everyone that everything is just fine and you should just keep doing what you're doing. Do you guys have to go to school for that by the way? It seems like a good job so long as you can keep to the party line. I wonder if there's an official title too?

Your sense of entitlement is simply mind boggling; do you understand the words you've written here?  Do you understand what it is you've said?  Judging from your sentence structure, and general tone, no - you don't have a single clue about anything you're attemping grapple with.  You're a moron who watched Glenn Beck, and believed that you've formulated an opinion about something.  I honestly cannot believe people like you survive child hood; you should've died wondering into traffic, because your lack of cognitive reasoning simply defys logic.  Please, educate yourself and return here when you actually understand the subjects you're pretending to understand.  In the mean time, please confine yourself to the World of Warcraft forums, they'll be most accomodating to your there - just like all the little babies who think they deserve something for having been born.

And please, don't speak to me.  You talking to me is like a maggot attemping communication with a human being; entirely pointless.  Take your unintelligent, uneducated half-opinions and sense of entitlement and crawl back into whatever whore-house you crawled out of. And, just so we're entirely clear: fuck off, you rancid sack of pig shit.

lmao

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Like holy shit dude read that whole thing out loud to yourself and just sit there for a moment and let it sink in