Yes. But maybe it should be called TODO list rather than Changelog.

Also nice to have fixed

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Items not able to be equiped by some characters/races (female travel boots for one)

Mounted Archers (STILL have animation lag time!)

Weird lag that continuesly build up becoming worse and worse the longer you play a tactical combat (only in dead zones / desert and only some of them - this lag vanishes when you zoom in look away from the egdes of the map - very strange)

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keep up the good work!

This happens to me Every_Time I load a game.  Autosave from a crash, and first load of a session.  Its not from mass reloading for better results.  I want to point that out in case the priority of this fix is diminished due it being a reloader thing.  It is not.  In my eyes this is a Major bug deserving of a priority hotfix.  It's murder on the AI.  I'm actually surprised there hasn't been a fix for it yet.  Well, there is Thanksgiving week lol.  Since the bug wasn't fixed by friday eve/saturday afternoon, I can understand it waiting until next week in the absence of a volunteer.  You've all done alot and went through a minor hell.  Enjoy the time.  Then come back and hammer down :~) 

PS:  I put in my vote for this thread to be perma-stickied.  With new versions replacing the old.  I valued the FfH changelog, and would value the EWoM changelog even more so. 

Here is probably best, as this is where people areposting the bugs, but should be stickied and called something like "current status" or "Known issues"

I can live with chrashs, balance issues and other minor bugs. For me this bug is a fun killer. I dont have 2-6 hours to play straight, so i often have to save and load. I know its a beta, but a hotfix would be cool, if possible.

*vote for sticky* 

Nice thing. Like in the old days of your civ 4 mod. Now applied in a professional way. Kudos Kael for bringing this here, much good will come of it.

2 imo utterly gamebreaking issues which deserve to be put high on the list:



Familiars and other summons can summon strategic summons as well (100% reproducable) :

Leading to the ability to summon them until mana runs out and thus making the game non challenging at all if you you use this given the cheap cost of 1! mana each Familiar (this is easily avoidable by the player if you just don't use it. Given the impact and time it appears (earliest around Season 30) its still a game-breaker worth mentioning)


"Reward logs" without fail (100% reproducable):

Meaning whenever you fight a battle in a certain type (offensive tactical, offensive autoresolve, defensive tactical, defensive autoresolve) a log is kept of all former rewards from all former battles of the same type and you get all the rewards (included salted pork and items like rings). Also each new reward added on top is equal to the last reward + the regular for the current battle so things cumulate up in a spiral way.

All different combat types obviously keeping a different log.

Loading a game will flush/reset the logs so something might be off with their removal after closing the combat summary (hope that helps finding the point where this one is hidden a tad bit faster).

This one is much more problematic (though it really just shows its ugly face much later in the game around season 100 when the rewards really start to add up unless you go monster-bashing right from the start...) since its nigh unavoidable to fight battles and reloading breaks many other things so one is in the unfortunate position between a rock of either being downright flooded with money (one million and counting after! a spending spree) and a hard place of constantly and deliberately shrinking their zone of influence which makes claiming resources a pain.

Both not situations you might want to put players in since it also renders most other tests which have anything to do with those 2 issues completely moot (the obscene bookkeeping required for a tally of exact rewards and not using the excess is something you can expect alpha-testers to do but not testers in an open beta, so all other results which have anything! to do with resources and rewards from combat will provide flawed results since resources can mostly be gained by diplomacy....)


I have to agree with WhiteElk here:
Together with the load and influence-issue those major glitches might warrant a quickfix given that they effectively break the game and make testing the other points which rely on them relatively pointless (minus the overall gameplay which I have to admit is a big improvement to 1.09 regular)...



Both issues should be most easy to reproduce on all machines so I spare you a savegame. Just fire up your game and test. In 5 minutes the issues should be obvious if you know about them...



PS: Mass equipping Champions with legendary armor + Shield + all Jewelry + Elementium Karazan sure is fun in the first moments but fast becomes dull and like bug-squishing even against slightly harder mobs... (500 k is an unthinkable ammount in a normal game... Output of about a thousand seasons). Looks nice though.

 Thanks for much for the update, Mr Paxton.

I presume this will be going up next week given the Turkeyfest. Is there any chance of resolving the combat calculations to the list for resolved/unresolved?

Also An interesting UI issue is the inability to see any most hero stats except on level up. It would be really handy to see them in the detail window.

Cheers.

Good to see the changes to Bows! 

Might I also suggest a change to Character/Empire creation where, if you have the Bows ability you start out with Crude Bows, instead of having Cedar Longbows available from the start.  Researching bow tech would give you the next bow tech earlier as well (so when your research makes Crude Bows available, you actually get Shortbows, and when Shortbows become available, then you'd get Cedar Longbows, due to your special ability).

I can argue making Archery Ranges available earlier either way as well. Before you'd get Archers immediately, so now having to build the archery range first before you can train bow units either helps game balance, or makes the special ability less useful... depending on your point of view.

I think the damage changes to the bow were a bit exagerated. I mean, a late-era bow should be able to deal *some* damage to light plate armor, a mid-game armor, which can reach the low-to-mid-20s depending on the presence or absence of a shield.

Also, I wonder what those accuracy changes are based on.

And it would be nice to see the dodge "bug" on that list; I for one am reluctant to do any testing while it's not working, not out of bad will, but because it's kind of difficult to assess the values of things that are irrelevant (dexterity, short swords, any non-plate armors, and all things connected to that). Any game balance issue, for instance, is unrecognizable as such for now. 

Nice, I am waiting for this patch to play because at the moment I am crashing far too often. I assume it's the Multi threaded AI

I would maybe add some other bow types like crossbows and bolts, but i like the idea of bows having a harder time piercing the late game armor.

"20" isn't late-game.

Just played a round where my wifey was the only one in a battle who lived, yet she was magically replaced by Relias and listed as dead when the battle was over.

...I swear I've seen that happen before.  Weird.

I don't know much about math and the formulas used here so an ignorant writing this: do bows do any damage at all?  At certain point in the game they seem to be doomed to gather dust. One would think that "mundane" ranged combat shoul still be somehow viable through all the game: better bows the same as swords and maces get more and more variations and/or kits that help archers (magical bows, enchanted arrows...).

In any case, nice to see all those fixes. There is hope for a crashless game!

Is there any expected delivery for th o patch?

I understand this is beta.  While it was crashing often, I can live (sort of) with that.

But now it has developed the habit of hanging.  Not just hanging the game.  Hanging the whole dang PC.  Alt-Tab doesn't work.  Alt-Ctl-Dell does not produce anything visible.  As far as I can tell, the only choice is to restart my computer.   (And since it is a few years old now, startup takes quite a while.)

And since it is a hang, rather than a crash, there is nothing I can send to report the problem.

So please, when will the o update be out?

Thank you,

Joel

Please fix the crashes, fix the memory leaks. No matter what you release if it is not stable it is worthless. Get the game stable and open it up to modding.

Remember that Bows also get the Strength bonus added to their attack strength, so it's likely that Cedar Longbows won't be attacking at 'only' 12 STR.  So, yes, even with 20 Defense, in the right hands Cedar Longbows shouldn't have too much problem penetrating said defenses.

30 Defense, on the other hand, might be a bit difficult, unless you have somewhere around a 30+ Strength. 

That being said, it'd be nice to see some more powerful bow technologies for late game (enchanted & compound bows, crossbows, etc.).

I forgot to mention, the new bow ranges look nice too.  It helps differentiate them a bit more.

That's true with all weapons. Think about the power a lordhammer will have.

But for regular troops, bows might become next to useless against anything with a bit of light armor :/.

I'm not saying the former values were awesome, I just think the nerf is a bit exagerated. Also, lordhammers need a nerf. Either make it EXTREMELY costly, or remove at least 10 attack power from them. No other weapon comes close to that power, it's totally unbalanced. 

Kael, if you want, you can still drink my magic flute.

*tagged for easy following*

*subscribes*

I see one "fixed a crash where X happens..." in the list so far... have we been able to find the cause and fix other crashes yet?

I don't know if the fix is supposed to be in the current version of the beta or not, but mounted archers are still taking 3-4 seconds too long to finish their action. If it isn't live can we add it to the list?

This.

See, even I get to say that.