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[REQUEST] Please explain how squad tactical combat works

[REQUEST] Please explain how squad tactical combat works

Despite reading these forums a lot, I still don't know how tactical combat works when squads are involved.

With single man units it's really straightforward. Roll attack, roll defense. Deduct defense roll from attack roll and reduce leftover from hitpoints.

With squads, what's the calculation? From the 1.07 update notes, I gather that members of a squad attack individually. Well what about defense? Is one of these guesses accurate:

1) Attacking squad rolls attack rolls for each of it's members. Each uses total attack divided by the maximum figures in the unit. Their results are added together. Defending squad rolls a single defend roll. Defense deducted from sum of attacks and reduce leftover from hitpoints.

2) Attacking squad rolls as in option 1. Defending squad rolls defense in a similar way, individually and then calculating together.

3) First member of attacking squad rolls his attack. A defense roll is rolled for total defense of the unit. Defense deducted from attack and hitpoints are reduced. Process repeated for every member of attacking squad.

4) Attacks rolled as per 3. Defense rolls are made according to individual defenses, not total unit defense. If a defender is killed, individual defense for next unit is rolled and reduced from remaining damage. Repeat the damage dealing for each defender as long as there is damage left.

 

There are countless of more variations, but these seem most likely. MoM of course used option 4, along with a bell curve for rolls.

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Reply #51 Top

Quoting Werewindlefr, reply 46
Thanks a huge lot for fixing this. More than anything, this was what prevented me from playing (it felt like playing starcraft with marines that can kill battlecruisers).

Will you please, please tell us what the error was? We won't make fun of anyone.

Promised. 

I swear, seriously.

oh, thank appropriate deity, this is such great news! It really was stopping me playing the game. Now if I could only find a way to get the AI to attack me occasionally and a bit of mana regeneration and I'd be ready to rock until the other proposed changes come in!

Reply #52 Top

Quoting MasonOfSparta, reply 45
While I originally thought Sarudak's theory was dead on I looked a little further into things and I think I found the error. I'll be fixing and testing presently.
Hi Mason,

Can we expect this fix in 1.08? It's not on the Patch notes.

Reply #53 Top

Might have been missed in the patch notes, but the fix should be in. Let me know if you find any other issues related to squad damage/defense.