A lot of people seem to be stuck in 1995.

Counterstrike was a mod. Garry's mod was obviously a mod. Now? They're their own games.

DotA was a mod for War3, and it started an entire genre of games (League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth).

SCII maps are not just maps. They can be entirely new games, as the Metal Slug remake in the SCII beta demonstrated. It'll be a self regulating market. You don't think this map/game type is worth your money? You are entirely free to recreate it. Odds are, you won't have the technical knowledge, the time, nor the art asset team to do it.

There will be great free custom maps, as well as great pay to play custom maps. Buy or don't buy. It's your choice.

Actually, they're saying "you have to check with us when you take the book out of the library". Offline mode works pretty well once the game is authorized... which really isn't different from trying to install any digital game on Impulse (or most of the industry, one time online activation is pretty common).

But hey, keep trying. Sooner or later I'm sure you'll find something to pin on Blizzard that isn't made up Internet bullshit.

Whatever happened to respect? 

If you don't like a remastered 1998 game, don't insult those who like it. Likewise, if you measure your happiness in actions per minute, why belittle those of differing opinions?

Respect is kinda moot when you make statements that are stereotypes(and not even generally true ones) as well as passive aggressive insults.

I enjoy SC2. I don't consider it a remastered SC1, but a sequel that is obviously is rooted in SC1. I also don't measure happiness in APM, of which mine is actually pretty bad. I enjoy it because mutliplayer is fun and pretty well balanced and the mods already in place are very good. I can only imagine what kinds of things are possible when people really understand the map creator.

So, lets really show some respect and not belittle the other side.

So you keep books that you own in the library?  Jeez, my comparison was great to start out with, but thanks for making it even better.

No it wasn't, and you're adding words in to read what you want. I never mentioned ownership at all.

It's kind of amazing how Starcraft 2 handles offline access the way so many other games do, and people are trying to make an issue out of it (but nobody seems to mind one time online activation for Impulse games). Kind of like the campaign, until someone mentioned DoW 2 which did the exact same thing and got exactly zero bashing over it.

Let the hypocrisy run free.

A brief recap, in our own words.

Me: If Blizzard were a book publisher, they'd be saying, "You have to check in with us every time you take the book off the shelf."

You: Actually, they're saying "you have to check with us when you take the book out of the library"

Me: So you keep books that you own in the library?

You: [Y]ou're adding words in to read what you want.

If you have to check with someone before you use something that you own, then I invite you to consider whether or not you truly own that thing.

And by the way, I have objected to DOW2.  As well as both Mass Effects, Bioshock, and Dragon Age, among others.  This is hardly new territory for me, which is what I assume you are implying by your repeated use of the word 'hypocrisy.'

I was being ironic for the sake of getting others to agree with my stance on respect. It worked. 

No you don't "keep" them because you don't own them. When you buy Starcraft 2, you don't own it. Tridus' library analogy was appropriate.

Some more or less random thoughts:

I still don't know what the say about SC2 (note that i'm mainly a single player when it comes to Starcraft and haven't even touched ladders yet, if you don't count the beta).

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Maybe if i tell that i can't wait for the expansions sums up what i think pretty well?

Ain't regretting that i bought the Collector Edition nor that i played the game through right away, took some 13-15h. The story is quite gripping. It has its weak moments, and characters, but overall, loved it.

Heroes could have been implemented better. Regenerating health+better stats, and maybe somesort team color circle under them like in WC3 to better distinguish them when you have a lot of units.

Hard difficulty feels hard and challenging... and the achievements are addicting, i'm very annoyed every time i miss one but achieving them is very satisfying. I like achievements, they add replayablity, fun... Good addition really.

Have to say that i'm very disappointed in Blizzard's decision to not to add any completly cut units to the editor. Dragoon (if it was ever coming), Reaver, Soul Hunter, Tempest (don't like Carrier that much, looks wrong), Twilight and Dark Archons, some Zerg units, etc whatever was cut or didn't come back. Can't make good SC1 remake mod adjusted to my own vision now :/ Sure, Stalkers can be easily modified to be Dragoons but don't look and feel the same.

PS Found out a cheat code by accident (well, i did try it intentionally if it works). "terribleterribledamage" is god mode.  Disables achievements until you start a new game or load game. If anyone read the code from StarCraft wiki, i added it (T51b in Wikia sites, TSIb in SC2 since numbers were not allowed). I don't claim that i was first to find it though, and Blizzard actually "joked" that they could make the phrase a cheat.

And that's what makes the irony so delicious.

Yeah. OMG it's the same as... almost every other game! The horror! How dare Blizzard make a game like everybody else!

Wow Starcraft2 is good, but the game was not ready for release.  I bought it on the 28th, installed it & then noticed my mouse icon is not moving even though i can select options....i put the game in windows mode to fix that.  Then i try to add the license & the key is not working.....had to go back to best buy.  Now the game plays but only in window mode since full screen still has the mouse issue & the game graphics are all glitched.  I am running latest drives on my gt 220 & direct x 11 for window 7.....this is some BS i home Stardockdoes not do the same with Elemental as Blizzard totally made me want my money back....

A swing and a miss.

The point is don't single out blizzard for doing the same thing as everyone else. If you hate everyone then grats your a fruitcake.

Are those my only choices?

Actually, false dilemma doesn't apply here, because he is not talking about two different choices, but rather stating that your argument should be about the superset (all games), instead of the subset (Starcraft II).

False dilemma is also not about pointing out two choices, when there is more than one. It's about inferring that one is true if the other is false, when there is more than one choice.

His argument is:

Why are you only arguing about X, when X+Y+Z are all doing it?

You might want to actually read about the fallacies before you link to them.

There are actually two ideas in his post.  The first idea is that I'm singling out SC2, which is not true.  I just didn't bother to address this idea because I didn't think it was worth my time.

The second idea in his post implied that my choices were that (a) I only hated Starcraft (and was a hypocrite) or that (b.) I hated everyone (and was a fruitcake).  False dilemma applies here.  I only hate most companies.

I didn't put the other options in there because I didn't think it was worth my time.

And btw, you did not single out Blizzard that was a 'bad argument' but the idea of the point still stands. "Most" companies offering AAA (expensive) titles operrate a closed enviroment that they TRY and control (and usually fail) to ensure they earn maximum return on thier investment.

You dislike this but "most" companies (the ones you hate) do it and blizzard is BETTER than "most". Complaing about SC2 seems silly in the face of say ubisoft's approach. But I assume now you complained about that more?

If you don't want to lay out a clear argument but attack others for not laying things out, then I don't plan on reading your posts, because I don't think it is worth my time.

Touché. 

I wasn't attacking you for being unclear.  I was attacking you for being willfully ignorant.

I realize that most people seem to draw the line at "every time" registration.  It seems you do.  Hell, it seems like even Brad Wardell does.  I, on the other hand, draw the line at any online registration at all, even one-time registration.  I know I'm in the minority, but as far as I'm concerned, online registration infringes on my rights as a consumer, and I refuse to buy games that ask for it.

Now, you may disagree, and we can have a civilized discussion about it.  Or we can have an uncivilized discussion about it.  Or we can have no discussion about it.  It's all fine by me, and I'll generally respond in whatever tone I'm engaged with.

As far as online registration for really good games ... well, there's a joke about that.  It goes like this: a man gets on an elevator where he's alone with a gorgeous woman.  He turns to her and says, "Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?"  She says, "Sure!"  Then he says, "Would you sleep with me for twenty bucks?"  Indignantly, she says, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"  He says, "We've established what kind of woman you are.  Now we're just haggling over the price."

If you believe that DRM is a serious infringement on your rights as an owner, as I do, then what kind of person would sell that belief for the price of a good game?  It's a black and white issue.  Blizzard might be the best game company in the entire universe, but it's irrelevant because they have online registration.  When a company does this, they are ensuring I will never buy their games.

P.S, No, I didn't complain about Ubisoft, but that's because I can't play FPS games due to motion sickness.  I'd barely heard of it before it came out.  (We are talking about Assassin's Creed, right?)  On the other hand, I complained a lot about ME1 back before release, when they were considering the same kind of crap.  In the end, Bioware backed off constant registration, but they still released a game that I refuse to play.  C'est la vie.

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So then what games do you play? Even Elemental for all practical purposes requires registration since the disc version will be dramatically out of date by time release happens. You're going to want that day 0 patch.

That's what I can figure out. What *can* you play with restrictions that strict?