A Most Interesting Difference Between R and D

A survey conducted by the Boston Review in its May/June issue shows that nearly 25% of American non-Jews blame “the Jews” a moderate amount or more for the financial crisis.

Furthermore, a total of 38.4% of the non-Jews in the U.S.attribute at least some level of blame to the group.

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They found that Democrats were significantly more prone to blaming Jews than Republicans: while 32% of Democrats accorded at least moderate blame, compared to only 18.4% of Republicans.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/2010/06/ten-years-ago-this-would-really-have-shocked-me.php

So why exactly do progressive educated people have a tendency to blame "the Jews" while backwards rednecks are apparently able to see beyond that spiel? What are the "elite" educated in?

My guess is that the 18.4% of Republicans mentioned are classical RINOs, Klansmen and others who joined the part of Lincoln for some other reason than freeing black slaves.

But who are the 32% of Democrats? Home owners who took mortgages they couldn't pay back? Harvard-educated liberal professors with an excellent career in the social sciences because all the physicists and chemists were Jews? Formerly oppressed black people told by the white elite that another minority was to blame for their misery?

It's difficult to tell, isn't it?

So who should I vote for if I were American?

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Does this mean a redneck from Alabama is less likely to be an anti-Semite than an educated liberal student in Berkeley?

Who would have thought.

 

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Reading the further links gives more information.  Those with degrees were less likely to blame the jews than those without degrees

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131238.

They also found that the affect that mentioning Madoff is Jewish had on that persons support for tax breaks for business was marked - the 'stronger' the mention the less they supported the tax breaks and this also applied to a group of Jewish people - which I thought was odd.

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Thanks for the additional link Basmas.  Very interesting reading.

While not surprising, or greatly enlightening, it is confirmation of the fact that the democrat party never shed its KKK streak, it just went under ground.  many like to claim the racists abandoned the party and went to the republicans, and indeed, they use that as a campaign issue to this day.  But the truth is they wised up.  They realized they could not achieve their ends by burning crosses on lawns, but could easily do it by destroying the minorities family structure and call it "government assistance".

Liberals do not care about people.  They just want the power to control people's lives, in order to dictate their behavior.  They have achieved that to a great degree.  The racism of liberals comes out when they are in power as they figure they no longer need to hide.

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I would disagree strongly with the statement that Liberals do not care about people. 

I think that both side want what is best for your country and the people in it - they just disagree about what is best and how to achieve it.   

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Quoting Basmas, reply 4
I would disagree strongly with the statement that Liberals do not care about people. 

I think that both side want what is best for your country and the people in it - they just disagree about what is best and how to achieve it.   

I know many believe as you, but their actions (not stated intentions) indicate they only care about power.  I am not saying that republicans are much different, but conservatives are.  If you look at the results of their programs for the last 50 years, and ignore what they say, one can only conclude that they have a gross indifference to people.

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I can't remember another time when political life has had such a strong resemblance to Wonderland.  Things are very bizarre.

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I would disagree strongly with the statement that Liberals do not care about people. 

I would definitely say that they don't care about some people. I would add that conservatives also don't care about some people, but they will usually be honest and admit whom they don't care about and why.

The numbers cited above clearly show that Democrats are more likely to blame Jews than Republicans are. Why is that? Is it because liberals care about people? Or is it because one third of them doesn't care about (or for) Jews?

 

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I really can't answer that question.  I was frankly stunned by the numbers on both sides - even the 18% is a lot higher than I thought.  I would be instrested to see this done in a more scientific study - for example there are no figures for those who don't consider themselves on either side of the political spectrum so we don't know if people were pressurized into aligning themselves with one side or only people who did see themselves as Democrats were selected  .  Nor there is any mention of the selection process - are the Rep all the classic RINOs and the Dems liberal Berkley students or are they highly educated business leaders and barely literate people who live off welfare?

Please note I am NOT saying that the numbers are false or not worrying nor that there is no difference between the sides. 

It just makes it a lot harder to come up with potential reasons - for example the educational status of the people involved also affects their views so it would be handy to know that this was taken into account, either in selection or post selection analysis.  For example a mutli-variate analysis.  

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for example there are no figures for those who don't consider themselves on either side of the political spectrum so we don't know if people were pressurized into aligning themselves with one side or only people who did see themselves as Democrats were selected . Nor there is any mention of the selection process - are the Rep all the classic RINOs and the Dems liberal Berkley students or are they highly educated business leaders and barely literate people who live off welfare?

Good points.  I believe that further study is warranted.  But it will have to be done by a minor party as we see, the major polling places are not really interested in digging into the numbers, just garnering headlines.

I would be interested to see who those people are as well.  And you are right, 18% is almost 1 in 5 and that is still too high.

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I would be interested to see who those people are as well.  And you are right, 18% is almost 1 in 5 and that is still too high.

The Stormfront people and David Duke have to exist somewhere in the Republican party. Maybe they are the 18%?

What I wonder is what they are doing in the GOP when the majority of their ideological brothers are Democrats.

 

 

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The Stormfront people and David Duke have to exist somewhere in the Republican party. Maybe they are the 18%?

No, they do not need to exist.  They came from the democrat side, and should go back there.

 

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Quoting Leauki, reply 10



I would be interested to see who those people are as well.  And you are right, 18% is almost 1 in 5 and that is still too high.

The Stormfront people and David Duke have to exist somewhere in the Republican party. Maybe they are the 18%?
What I wonder is what they are doing in the GOP when the majority of their ideological brothers are Democrats.
 

So, whatever party is in power your group is still represented.  Also, white supremist groups are probably the most united but still have underlining issues that divide.

For Madoff, I had several close associates tell me that they felt that Madoff had to give some of the money to Israel. I felt this had undertones of anti-semetism (didn't say that to them).  Just because he's Jewish doesn't mean he gives money to Israel (I told them that there are very religious Jews that are against Israel) just like I have German decent doesn't mean I give to Germany, German parties, German Socialist, or the Neo-Nazis.

I did notice how the media did keep bringing up that he was Jewish and now Madoff is adored in prison. Hopefully not helping those younger and less experience leptons in there.

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For Madoff, I had several close associates tell me that they felt that Madoff had to give some of the money to Israel. I felt this had undertones of anti-semetism (didn't say that to them). Just because he's Jewish doesn't mean he gives money to Israel

Got to wonder if Fundamentalist Christian thieves still tithe 10% to the church of their ill gotten gains too. ;)

As for the assumption of the associates, I have to wonder if they are just opining, or being stupid and bitter.  Whether he did or did not is not an issue.  I doubt any of the victims care a whit.

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Doc, you are right my associates could have been doing that.  I just don't think he would do that because he was just looking at for himself and his family.  Greed totally consumed him and I don't think he just give his money away.

Which makes me wonder, did donate any of his money to charities? 

Doc, I know you've been back for quite some time, but I just want to say I'm glad you're back.

Leauki also took several day hiatas which made me wonder if he was taken onto a flortilla as humanitarian aid to Gaza :-)

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Leauki also took several day hiatas which made me wonder if he was taken onto a flortilla as humanitarian aid to Gaza

The only way he would be on that flotilla was if he was a hostage or dinner!  And I do not think the radicals are cannibals yet. ;)

Thanks.  The pace has slowed down which works well with my new job.

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As DRG. has already said, interesting article and comments.

A survey conducted by the Boston Review in its May/June issue shows that nearly 25% of American non-Jews blame “the Jews” a moderate amount or more for the financial crisis. Furthermore, a total of 38.4% of the non-Jews in the U.S.attribute at least some level of blame to the group. ... They found that Democrats were significantly more prone to blaming Jews than Republicans: while 32% of Democrats accorded at least moderate blame, compared to only 18.4% of Republicans.

Until your article, I really hadn't thought of it in these terms.

And now that I've seen it, Barney Frank and Charles Schumer come to mind...both are big players in the current ecomonic crisis.

In my view it has little to nothing to do with the fact they are Jews, but rather with the fact they are LIBERALS who have some power who use it to do nothing but look out for themselves.

 

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I think that both side want what is best for your country and the people in it

One should note that US liberalism as compared to other nations, does not necessary equate in meaning. You are correct that each side wants what is "best" for the country. The thing is what is their idea of best? Even the KKK has a notion of what is best for the country. I agree with Doc, the far left (and that does include a chunk of liberals) have really creeped me out over race relations in the last 20 years or so. Maybe I just started paying more attention. As Doc said, they accuse the right (Republicans in general) of racism to shut off any criticism. After all who listens to "no you do" arguments after it starts? Plus if it is said often enough it must be true. Mainly it is to perpetuate a stereotypical backwardness (as was done to Palin for example). Yet when actual examples of it surface (Biden and Reid statements come to mind) it is glossed over as an innocent gaff.

One just has to look at the handling of the New Black Panthers voter intimidation case by this administration to get a sense of "equality" in America today. Any fraud, by anyone should have been dealt with quickly and harshly. As long as groups strive to keep themselves dependent on the government handouts, it appears to be fine with this administration. They know the mob is never satisfied. and are using class warfare to its advantage, at least until it can tighten restrictive controls enough, adding a sprinkling of entitlements for "acceptable" behavior. They wouldn't want the population turning on them while they set themselves up nicely (health care "reform" for you, special health plans for them, cap and trade for you, carbon credit dollars, big homes, and private planes for them).

They must feel somewhat comfortable, because more and more of them are stepping into the light and making their intentions known.They promise everything except a days fair pay of a days honest work. It's all about control. If only they can get past that pesky constitution (they keep trying). Hopefully people will wake up and say enough is enough.

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One should note that US liberalism as compared to other nations, does not necessary equate in meaning.

I suppose so.

You are correct that each side wants what is "best" for the country. The thing is what is their idea of best?

Exactly. What is "best" for one might be "worse" for someone else. Citizens of all backgrounds working together toward the "common good" has long gone by the wayside. We aren't a "melting pot" any more.  

 

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In my view it has little to nothing to do with the fact they are Jews, but rather with the fact they are LIBERALS who have some power who use it to do nothing but look out for themselves.

Will the wonders never cease.

We actually agree on something!

 

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My disgust with the inability to view individuals as such reaches new heights (depths?).

Just find the smallest such group. Label it, demonize it and blame it using the labellers' own inadequate intellect/personality and presto, there's a Holocaust, pogrom or farhood.

Just don't ask for whom the bell tolls: It tolls for you.

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Leauki posts:

Will the wonders never cease.

We actually agree on something!

Let's celebrate with a beer! :beer: :beer:

 

DrJBHL posts:

Just find the smallest such group. Label it, demonize it and blame it using the labellers' own inadequate intellect/personality and presto, there's a Holocaust, pogrom or farhood.

Liberalism divides.

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Does this mean a redneck from Alabama is less likely to be an anti-Semite than an educated liberal student in Berkeley?

Who would have thought.

I keep on telling that to people and they keep on not getting it.

Always the assumption that by being a republican jew I am allying with the KKK and that somehow conservative means redneck bigot who blames "The Jews" for everything.

Yet somehow the constant bigotry of the left goes unmentioned...

In my view it has little to nothing to do with the fact they are Jews, but rather with the fact they are LIBERALS who have some power who use it to do nothing but look out for themselves.

The same polls that tell me that jews are all liberals also told me bush was losing the election by a landslide, and many other misleading statistics. I wonder how accurate those polls are... Most jews I see here in texas are conservative and quite sensible about the whole thing.

Maybe they only poll jews in harvard for their political opinion.

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Always the assumption that by being a republican jew

Are you really Eric Cantor? ;)

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Quoting Dr, reply 23

Always the assumption that by being a republican jew

Are you really Eric Cantor?

Who is Eric Cantor? sounds like I would like to hear what he has to say.

BTW, one of my favorite talk radio hosts is mark levin. The guy is awesome, and is a jewish conservative.