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Map of Elemental

Map of Elemental

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Here is the map of Elemental (map made for Random House’s Elemental: Destiny's Embers novel).

A cloth map (made of canvas specifically) will be included in the Limited Edition.

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Reply #76 Top

Sorry I posted a bit off topic, thanks for the help though guys.

 

This map looks really interesting, and is one of the many reasons I decided to upgrade. 

 

I just look at this map and see all of the potential in there. I wonder will I run into these ruins of an epic battle between mages. Where do the dragons lay?

 

Basically I just can't wait to see how this map, and the book, and single player all tie together.

Reply #77 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 67
The book isn't based off the game and the game isn't based off the book. They take place in the same world.

The book takes place after the War of Magic which is why Resoln and Tarth are not around at that point (which will be explained in the game in the future).  But there are 10 factions during the War of Magic.

I am not sure why anyone would sweat it about "the lore". In the sandbox mode, which is what 99.9% of players will play anyway, you can be space elves or whatever.  You can create your own races and save them and play against them.

 

I'm so happy you said that. I was facepalming pretty hardcore there for a while and was about to point out that very fact. But anyway, let us all sit back and practice a new mantra: I will not feed the Trolls.  Now that we have that settled..

 

The map looks plenty original to me. I mean, lets be honest..There are only so many ways you can get "creative" with a world map. You have land, and water, toss into a sphere and shake, let sit for a few billion years. Ta-dah! And yeah, no need to get scientifically literal about the processes. The landmass(s) thus far look fine to me. They are obviously only one continent, that or they're just two big islands connected by a small portion there at the top. So lets go with a small continent (by Earth standards) and focus on..Lots of ocean out there, probably some new world here and there (expansions anyone?).

 

Not sure I like the space elves idea though..I mean, if they're going to be space elves, then that means they'd probably sparkle right? Like Avatar..So lets see here..Fair hair, sparkling, pointy ear-s...W-wait..N-no! No!! x_x

 

Oh right, there was one little thing I forgot to mention..The mysterious lake that sits at the foot of a mountain range that is draining(?) off into two different directions. Now, I'm no expertz, but is it me..or aren't the rivers actually flowing into the lake? They're wider at the sea/ocean connections, and become narrow as they approach the lake itself. I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't see the tiny stream suddenly becoming a much, much larger mass of water flowing into the ocean. Plus, we have no details on the sea-level anyway, nor do we know if that lake is even a non-man made formation. Snow melt from the mountains seem like as good a reason as any for the lake. Just my two cents, or lack their-of.

Reply #78 Top

Nice map, look forward to getting the canvas version.

I wonder what the town of Hope will be like - similar to then one in BC Canada? Link (where they filmed First Blood)

As well, the unnamed large island in the centre of the bay will no doubt be a key place to visit..

So will expansions bring up new islands and continents? (guess I am getting ahead of myself and all)  :thumbsup:

Reply #79 Top

It's gonna look extra good hanging on my wall. Hell I might even put it in the hall-way or out in the living room. What size frame should I buy?

Reply #80 Top

Quoting Raven, reply 79
It's gonna look extra good hanging on my wall. Hell I might even put it in the hall-way or out in the living room. What size frame should I buy?

 

18x26” cloth map of the world of Elemental

 

Poster same size.

Link

 

That will indeed look good on the wall.. 

Reply #81 Top

Quoting ThreeKings, reply 80



Quoting Raven X,
reply 79
It's gonna look extra good hanging on my wall. Hell I might even put it in the hall-way or out in the living room. What size frame should I buy?


 

18x26” cloth map of the world of Elemental

 

Poster same size.

Link

 

That will indeed look good on the wall.. 

lol oops...should have seen that. That's why they call them Drugs...lol. Thanks my friend.

Reply #82 Top

So how big is that map ingame?

Reply #83 Top

Quoting XeronX, reply 8
How do you know that it isn't one of the rivers flowing in becuase the ocean is higher on that side?   

It's the same ocean that both rivers flow into, so the ocean can't be higher on one side and lower on the other. Yes, the lake can be below sea-level, but it can't have one river into the ocean and one out.

Quoting VicenteC, reply 66

Quoting John_Hughes, reply 63
"Not any weirder than a Lake without any Rivers, In or Out, like to the North of Lake Gandru. LOL"

Those types of lakes exist, although not so big and in such a place as it is in the Elemental map.

Lake Toba in Sumatra is such a lake and is roughly the same size as the one in Elemental. Also, lakes with no outlets can appear wherever, since there are a number of causes that could create one. The lake north of Gandru is not really that strange.

 

Lake Gandru is really weird however, or then the map is really unintuitive. The river through the imperial spine is clearly continuous, so it would indicate that Gandru indeed has two rivers flowing into the ocean. This would require *extremely* rare and unstable circumstances. The river would have to fill up at the exact same rate as it empties from both rivers to maintain the balance. Otherwise one of the rivers would dry up. Also, the flow rate of the two rivers would have to maintain equilibrium. If the flow rate of one of the rivers would change, it would immediately shift the distribution of water and eventually again cause one of the rivers to dry up.

It just doesn't make sense. You can't have two rivers flowing into the same ocean from one lake at opposite ends of the lake. It would make much more sense if the stream from the imperial spine was an inlet to the lake and another river would flow from the spine to the west coast. In the current map this is not the case though.

Reply #84 Top

Quoting Darvin3, reply 27
Um... that map looks extremely similar to Arda... even the mountain ranges are nearly the same.

I agree. It was the first thing I thought when I saw the map.

Reply #85 Top

Quoting Rath3130, reply 77

The map looks plenty original to me. I mean, lets be honest..There are only so many ways you can get "creative" with a world map. You have land, and water, toss into a sphere and shake, let sit for a few billion years. Ta-dah! And yeah, no need to get scientifically literal about the processes.

When I used to write my own fantasy, I liked to draw the maps and it was nice to give them some realistic touchs if possible, starting by things like plate tectonics. But that's all. After all, it's not about creating a whole scientifically (or religiously if it's the reader's case) plausible universe (we are talking fantasy here, no hardcore science fiction). That said, for a story I reached the point of "Let's start by the Big Bang and build the universe from there" (in a light hearted and simplfied way, mind you).

Reply #87 Top

Quoting Sir_Linque, reply 83



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Lake Gorba is really weird however, or then the map is really unintuitive. The river through the imperial spine is clearly continuous, so it would indicate that Gorba indeed has two rivers flowing into the ocean. This would require *extremely* rare and unstable circumstances. The river would have to fill up at the exact same rate as it empties from both rivers to maintain the balance. Otherwise one of the rivers would dry up. Also, the flow rate of the two rivers would have to maintain equilibrium. If the flow rate of one of the rivers would change, it would immediately shift the distribution of water and eventually again cause one of the rivers to dry up.

It just doesn't make sense. You can't have two rivers flowing into the same ocean from one lake at opposite ends of the lake. It would make much more sense if the stream from the imperial spine was an inlet to the lake and another river would flow from the spine to the west coast. In the current map this is not the case though.

"And legend tells of a massive fire titan chained and shackled at the very bottom of the lake. Bound there in the last days of the great war, the only way to hold him was to flood the crater where he was chained. And so the mightiest wizards caused the earth to crack and shift, drawing water from the endless seas to hold down the titan. Dread the day, when the spells fade or the seas dry up."

It is a mythic world, dont you all be so dry.

Reply #88 Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 69
Who cares about map irregularities like that? Is your imagination so far diminished that you need your fantasy games to have ultra realistic river formations. We could go on for days about this map's similarity to real life and the justifications for its geographical qualities or we could just enjoy it.

Or are you capable of enjoying things?

It looks silly and unprofessional. And it's not such a big deal to correct those details.

Reply #89 Top

Quoting VicenteC, reply 88

Quoting seanw3, reply 69Who cares about map irregularities like that? Is your imagination so far diminished that you need your fantasy games to have ultra realistic river formations. We could go on for days about this map's similarity to real life and the justifications for its geographical qualities or we could just enjoy it.

Or are you capable of enjoying things?
It looks silly and unprofessional. And it's not such a big deal to correct those details.

Agreed, its called attention to detail...

Reply #90 Top

Quoting Anomander, reply 89



Quoting VicenteC,
reply 88

Quoting seanw3, reply 69Who cares about map irregularities like that? Is your imagination so far diminished that you need your fantasy games to have ultra realistic river formations. We could go on for days about this map's similarity to real life and the justifications for its geographical qualities or we could just enjoy it.

Or are you capable of enjoying things?
It looks silly and unprofessional. And it's not such a big deal to correct those details.


Agreed, its called attention to detail...

Disagreed, it is called boring ...

Reply #91 Top

Reagreed, the details are important...

Reply #92 Top

Honestly, the lake issue would be borderline trolling, even if you guys were right.

 

And you aren't. Bifurcation lakes are rare indeed, but that doesn't mean nonexistent. There are quite a few in Finland - I know, I was there. And there is one in Canada that is actually pretty big. All of them were stable enough to survive centuries. 

Reply #93 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 67
I am not sure why anyone would sweat it about "the lore". In the sandbox mode, which is what 99.9% of players will play anyway, you can be space elves or whatever.  You can create your own races and save them and play against them.

Seems I'm one of the 0.1%, because I'm more interested in playing the campaigns than the sandbox mode. After completing the standard campaigns I'll look for user-made ones (or maybe make one myself?)

Reply #94 Top

Hm....nice map...don't ask my why [maybe it's because of the "dual continents" concept], but...somehow it reminds me of the basic WoW map. [Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms]... o_O

Reply #95 Top

I think its Spain on the left and Ireland on the right! :D

Reply #96 Top

Quoting Pan, reply 92
And you aren't. Bifurcation lakes are rare indeed, but that doesn't mean nonexistent. There are quite a few in Finland - I know, I was there. And there is one in Canada that is actually pretty big. All of them were stable enough to survive centuries. 

Hey, this is pretty interesting. I did not know these existed. Finland I can understand since there are a thousand lakes that such a rare occurrence might be possible (heh, I'm actually from Finland and did not know about these types of lakes ... ). It requires very unique geography for this to happen, apparently. In finland this is possible because there are no watersheds in the area - it's not clear as to which general direction the water should flow. I'm sorry that I continue this discussion but I find the topic interesting.

Can you point me to the one in Canada? I was unable to find info on it.

Reply #97 Top

Quoting Anomander, reply 89

Agreed, its called attention to detail...
Unless it was chosen to be in that way on purpose (creative license?)... detail which I don't know. Just saying, not trying to take sides or anything.

Reply #98 Top

Quoting Sir_Linque, reply 96


Hey, this is pretty interesting. I did not know these existed. Finland I can understand since there are a thousand lakes that such a rare occurrence might be possible (heh, I'm actually from Finland and did not know about these types of lakes ... ). It requires very unique geography for this to happen, apparently. In finland this is possible because there are no watersheds in the area - it's not clear as to which general direction the water should flow. I'm sorry that I continue this discussion but I find the topic interesting.

Can you point me to the one in Canada? I was unable to find info on it.

 

Wollaston Lake. Looking for the info I discovered it's actually the biggest lake of that kind (source: Wikipedia, what else).

Reply #99 Top

Quoting Tormy-, reply 94
Hm....nice map...don't ask my why [maybe it's because of the "dual continents" concept], but...somehow it reminds me of the basic WoW map. [Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms]... 

omehow it reminds me of the basic WoW map. [Kali

 

Yeah I was going to go with the "Wheres Northrend?" joke at first.

Warcraft was my first throught - like a snap shot during the umm... rending? (The explosion of the well in the middle)

 

Reply #100 Top

I love the debate about geology in a world that has magic flying all over the place, etc. LOL guys. Its fantasy.. anything can happen. Maybe a paralyzed water dragon is peeing  off the side of the continent :P