(Replay) This is the reason Demigod Population is so low

The enemy team was alright, they were a great challenge and my team might have won if they were little babies and didnt expect me to bow down to their supreme wisdom. Instead I talked back, they refused to play the game anymore, and just belittled me the rest of it. By far the worst game I have ever played.

 

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Reply #1 Top

-Your items didnt match your build at all

-Choosing blood straight away instead of waiting till someones follows you past tower to finish you off.

-Leaving line in first minute when having a monk. It would heal u to full hp in the time you took to walk back and forward.

-Leaving shop without portal or pot to gank/pull someone towers. even when you had money for it

-late currency

-No shield till lvl 9 (thats why you died first time and thats why rook died little bit later)

-I cant understand why your rook and sedna were standing on mana flag whole game instead of hp flag

-Pen 1 at lvl 6, then full pen but no shield

-at 12,30 if you would shield rook he woudnt die. But you didnt have shield lol

-rook ported on full hp ub and oak and was tryin to fight them 2v1 and died before sedna moved from other side of map

About ur build:

I have no idea what was your plan there LOL. (lvl11: raise dead wand, sould power 1, surge of faith 2, shield 1, divine justice 1, full penitence).Item build is good for assasin oak except Scalemail - should be replaced either with Namroth ring or Groffin warplate. THere was no need stacking armor in this game since no one went full dps or or minion build. Extra mana or hp would  be far more usefull here then armor stacking.

 

You shouldnt be mad at teamates. Past 15 minute there was no chance that you guys would recover from 8 kills and 3 war ranks missing.

Reply #2 Top

Lol, im not the best oak, I always forget alot of things, dont have a set build, just winging it every time I play him to find what works. With rook/ub/sedna i have a set build. Ere/reg/oak i wing it lol.

Im mad at teammates because they quit, without quitting and at least giving me AI teammates that would help somewhat, and I refuse to think that the entire reason we lost was my fault not taking shield at level 1, I was not the only one to make mistakes on my team, but am somehow wholely responsible for the loss.

And from now on, I will take shield1 just to avoid this fiasco.

Reply #3 Top

Quoting irek1988,
-Leaving line in first minute when having a monk. It would heal u to full hp in the time you took to walk back and forward.

-late currency

-No shield till lvl 9 (thats why you died first time and thats why rook died little bit later)

-I cant understand why your rook and sedna were standing on mana flag whole game instead of hp flag

-rook ported on full hp ub and oak and was tryin to fight them 2v1 and died before sedna moved from other side of map

...THere was no need stacking armor in this game since no one went full dps or or minion build. Extra mana or hp would  be far more usefull here then armor stacking.


I agree on all of these points, particularly the first two. Also, in my experience - and take this with a grain of salt - Oak plays the support role for the early game, and slowly moves forward until the late game where he can really dominate the entire field. Late Shield, as irek pointed out, really hurt you. I'd recommend a build that gets Shield as early as possible, as it can really be a game changer if used at the right moments. I've lost count of times I've been killed because my opponent got that last second Shield.

In any case, these types of players have little to do with a Low Population in my opinion. Look at DotA; their community is comprised entirely of these types of players.

Reply #4 Top

So...I don't see how this has ANYTHING to do with low pop.

Reply #5 Top

Quoting Teseer, reply 4
So...I don't see how this has ANYTHING to do with low pop.

Its like premade/friends or just good players vs mid/noob players. It happen a lot of time. Each time i connect to demigod to play...only thing u see is...."noob", "noob only", "35-55%", "<100games", etc. So good players will have to lower their stats to play ?. hopefully, there are some players that dont care about this.

Reply #7 Top

Hopefully, the constructive criticism from Irek and ZehDon will show you there are some helpful players in the Demigod community.  I've had several LAN buddies give up the game because of bad experiences online, so I know the 'de-syncers' and 'elitists' have cost the community some players.  

What I get from your post is that you didn't care much for the treatment your partners gave you.  If your partners want to help you, and you don't want help, it's gonna be a bad experience.  If your partners just just want to berate your efforts, you're gonna have a miserable time, but at least the game probably won't last long.  Remember who made your life miserable, and play on the other side next time.  Had that happen last week, and winning is really sweet revenge.

Demigod is a great TEAM game, and, as you know, can be a real blast when everything works right.  Don't let a couple jerks ruin it for you.

Reply #8 Top

Quoting primz, reply 5

Quoting Teseer, reply 4So...I don't see how this has ANYTHING to do with low pop.

Its like premade/friends or just good players vs mid/noob players. It happen a lot of time. Each time i connect to demigod to play...only thing u see is...."noob", "noob only", "35-55%", "<100games", etc. So good players will have to lower their stats to play ?. hopefully, there are some players that dont care about this.
And now synn's mindset is being missed?

Reply #9 Top

If jerks were the reason why games go by the wayside, then it would happen to every single game ever made in short order.  Sure there are plenty of assholes in the DG community, but it's no different than any other PC game.  But you are right, the guys that whine the whole game really ruin the experience.  I'd rather lose with a bunch of cool players than win with a bunch of whiners.  Funny thing is that it seems the biggest whiners are usually the really good and/or experienced players.  I remember playing with Lifekatana once as Sedna and he (or she) was Rook.  I died once and he/she just about had a fit, calling me a noob and complaining about it and my gameplay in general for much of the rest of the game.  Then the dude quit or dropped, don't recall which for sure, and my other teammate - who didn't whine, called out our partner for the attitude along with me, and actually had some nice compliments for me end game - went on to win without him/her.  

At any rate, try not to let the whiners spoil games for you.  They are out there and will never go away for any game you play online, DG or otherwise.  Like others suggested, you'll get a feel for them eventually and avoid them.

Reply #10 Top

there are whiners and "whiners". you gotta see the difference between someone who just calls you out fancy names after dying once and the people that tell you what youre doing wrong (sometimes not too friendly because it was really retarded what you did) which is sometimes mistaken for whining. so if someone tells you something you should at least say "no, because... <enter very good reason here>". ignoring is the worst you can do and when i hear that you didnt get shield at 7 i must say: that was pretty dumb. i play oak a lot and there are better oak players out there who may say shield at 7 aint neccessary BUT it can be a game changer and save lifes. i mean it gives you the get out of jail for one teleportation scroll card right in your hands. and you got a rook on your team. he is gank target no 1 so its a MUST to level shield and save his ass! also when you seem to lose its the only thing that makes you being able to lock the portal flags on cataract no matter what... you tele/run in, shield, lock, leave and let the enemy look dumb.

you should know your build right from the beginning. which means i.e. you play against rook -> minions! you play against tb and queen: no minions!

aah and the thing to get botf only after luring someone in. you can do that but you dont have to. seriously, who follows into towers early on is stupid anyway and will get killed later.

Reply #11 Top

aah and the thing to get botf only after luring someone in. you can do that but you dont have to. seriously, who follows into towers early on is stupid anyway and will get killed later.

completely not true.  This has worked countless times against GOOD players.  A lot of good players follow into towers early for a kill.  People don't expect to be pushed that far and they die unless they have a trick rolled up their sleeves.  They just assume the enemy will be scared by the big old tower doing less dmg to them than you would in the same amount of time.

 

It also works great when you push into the enemy towers and cause them to turn around right at the tower because they think they have you.  You pop it at the last second, take the advantage / kill / walk away safely.  "First Kill!"  is a drug, some people will go a little harder than they would mid game just to hear the sound I think ;)

Reply #12 Top

well it may work against half of the people but most arent that stupid or do that as well so what then..?

... then you are dead.

Reply #13 Top

No, most ARE that stupid.  I could have sworn I said that in my last post.  I suppose I can play the part of broken record.

 

It works, do it, people ARE that stupid, it's a good skill to be able to have, it works, people ARE that stupid, it has worked countless times on GOOD players, it works, if you advocate against it you simply are unable to do it properly, it works, do it, people ARE that stupid, do it, it works.

Reply #14 Top

This also works with Universal Gadgets. I can usually swing a FIRST BLOOD with UB by buying a gadget as one of my starting items. People use Blood as a pot, I gadget them, they still die. :D


Btw, I died once to the whole "Botf as a pot" thing, and then I've never fallen for it since. If you see a general with very low HP he's either a hardcore minion build or using BOTF as a pot. It's so bloody easy to see.

I get blood as soon as the game starts. It gives me better healing with my monks which allows me to stand on flags better early game.

Reply #15 Top

eh or the general is using cloak of the night, very popular choice :P

 

It's not as effective w/ universal gadgets as you can waste 500g if they don't die.  I dunno, I've died to gadgets at level 1, but I just don't generally see them as a good idea early game.  Even if you get a kill, that's a 100g increase or so.. mehhh

Reply #17 Top

Sure, it's not really meaningful at level 1. It's the thrill of the FIRST BLOOD that makes people do these things. You said it yourself. ;)

 

Btw, if he's using CoN then I also don't pursue him. They'll always get away and leave you screwed. I just never pursue a general with low max hp. ;)

Reply #19 Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 13
No, most ARE that stupid.  I could have sworn I said that in my last post.  I suppose I can play the part of broken record.

 

It works, do it, people ARE that stupid, it's a good skill to be able to have, it works, people ARE that stupid, it has worked countless times on GOOD players, it works, if you advocate against it you simply are unable to do it properly, it works, do it, people ARE that stupid, do it, it works.

i do it and it works sometimes but its not something you just have to do. its like saying botf is the only viable fav item choice. its not. and also it doesnt work that often or you really gotta take risks that can kill you if the other one has a reg in the team or gets help by a sed or an oak or has a pot himself or ...

see there is just a lot that can go wrong. that said: its also ok to get botf right from the start, getting healed by monks just a bit more by that, perhaps also get the hp flag right away.