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The Obama Deception

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The Obama Deception

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Any thoughts on the Obama Deception?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

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Reply #26 from Elemental Forums Top

This is an impressive flame war I must say.   A highly amusing read.

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

'Mock to the core'.  My goodness.

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Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Tertian, reply 25
You know, if I wasn't resigned to the fact that humanity is going to die by self-immolation, I might be worried, or care in a fashion. I really don't. Your ignorance has been, quite honestly, the funniest moment in my day. It's completely obvious you don't know ANYTHING, in any way, shape, or form. If I meet you on the street, my mocking will rock you to your core, and you will fall asleep desperately looking for a way to prove to yourself that you're worth something. You won't find it.

Aside from the fact we actually have no idea who you're talking to...

I'm just posting in here because it's making me giggle.  I know conspiracy theorists.  I try not to laugh at them to their face.  But sometimes (well, at least now) I can't help it.

Reply #29 from Sins Forums Top

wow this got a second page in the forum!!!

Reply #30 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Yeah, PAge 2 already...time sure fly when we're flame warrin'

Reply #31 from Elemental Forums Top

If watching the video changes nothing you do then it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. Opinions only matter to the opinionated. Your expression to others is a reflection of your expression to yourselves. All this means nothing...... kinda like this topic.

 

p.s. The op hasn't stated his stance on the topic.

Reply #32 from Stardock Forums Top

Opinions only matter to the opinionated?

 

What, like, every human being on the planet?  You should rephrase that :p

Reply #33 from Sins Forums Top

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Reply #34 from Sins Forums Top

Isn't this, like, an overtly political thread?   What's it doing here?

Reply #35 from Sins Forums Top

End of the Day, Some people believe that they live in a country where they vote for whoever they wish to be in power, and some people beleive that the world aint owned by us, but by people who are much richer in the world.

I beleive, a bit of both, we do have the right to vote for the person we think is fit to govern a country, but the only reason they get elected is becuase rich people want a guy in there to benefit themselves.

Terriorism has got much worser since 9/11, but not only this, our rights, our freedom has gone too. We live in a scoiety where people fear.

Asains get attacked, abused and even murdered due to there colour, and many people start to fear us in our own countries. I used to think Britain used to be a very friendly and welcoming place, but since Terrisot attacks of both Amercia and the 7/7 attacks of Birtain, people start to treat us different, way different from before. and the way they turn is to voting parties like BNP in government. 

The fact is, if the USA governemnt planned the 9/11 attacks, or heard that it was going to happen and didnt stop it, they made the world are much worser place to live in. By invading them, just made it even worse, when fmailes see there loved ones in coffins from warzones, and islamic preachers preahcing that soilders, OUR soilders are going to hell, its just makes things worse.

I hate to say this, but Amercia does control the world, and Britain, is its bitch. The war in iraq and Afghanistan wasent jsutifed, and tony blair and geroge w bush made the world a much worser place then ever before.

There are so many things in the world that are changing, for the worse. What I belieive? I beleive we are in a motion where there will be ONE MAJOR disatear, for all of it to correct itself, Muslims and Chirstians need to Unite together.

 

Sorry for talking too much guys, but thats what I beleive.

Reply #36 from Sins Forums Top

By the way, If God does not forgive us of our sins, then he is not God.

Reply #37 from Elemental Forums Top

This is too Savyg and Zigzag. This is only too Savyg and Zigzag. If you think its for you and you are not Savyg or Zigzag then a mistake has been made. These words are for you, Savyg and Zigzag.

Yes, you are right.

Reply #38 from Demigod Forums Top

Please close this topic. Nothing to be debated. Conspiracy theorists will never admit they're wrong and "we normal people" will never believe them.

Reply #39 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 38
Please close this topic. Nothing to be debated. Conspiracy theorists will never admit they're wrong and "we normal people" will never believe them.
You hush; let the flame continue to burn, so says the fire starter.

Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top

You hush; let the flame continue to burn, so says the fire starter.

You have an impish streak! ;)

Reply #41 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Dr, reply 40

You hush; let the flame continue to burn, so says the fire starter.
You have an impish streak!

Who mwah? Never I am an angel.

 

Reply #42 from Sins Forums Top

Conspiracy theorists will never admit they're wrong

 

LOL speaking of which, look at all the people who refuse to admit they're conspiracy theorists.  I've got news for you:  if you believe 19 Arabs simultaneously hijacked 3 commercial airlines with boxcutters and rammed themselves into buildings, YOU are a conspiracy theorist.   Or maybe it was a lone suicide bomber that did it.

Reply #43 from Elemental Forums Top

There's a difference between making a theory to fit the evidence and making the evidence fit a theory.  In the second category comes most conspiracy theories, since its the only way they can try to ignore the Himalayan scale amount of evidence against whatever they are claiming

Reply #44 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting tetleytea, reply 42



LOL speaking of which, look at all the people who refuse to admit they're conspiracy theorists.  I've got news for you:  if you believe 19 Arabs simultaneously hijacked 3 commercial airlines with boxcutters and rammed themselves into buildings, YOU are a conspiracy theorist.   Or maybe it was a lone suicide bomber that did it.

Lol, here we have your typically poor understanding from a truther, who is confused about what a conspiracy theory actually is. A theory concerning a conspiracy =/ conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories meet certain criteria, helpfully provided by wiki below:

 

1. Initiated on the basis of limited, partial or circumstantial evidence;
Conceived in reaction to media reports and images, as opposed to, for example, thorough knowledge of the relevant forensic evidence.

2. Addresses an event or process that has broad historical or emotional impact;
Seeks to interpret a phenomenon which has near-universal interest and emotional significance, a story that may thus be of some compelling interest to a wide audience.

3. Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;
Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4. Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators;
Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.

5. Allots superhuman talents or resources to conspirators;
May require conspirators to possess unique discipline, unrepentant resolve, advanced or unknown technology, uncommon psychological insight, historical foresight, unlimited resources, etc.

6. Key steps in argument rely on inductive, not deductive reasoning;
Inductive steps are mistaken to bear as much confidence as deductive ones.

Appeals to 'common sense';
Common sense steps substitute for the more robust, academically respectable methodologies available for investigating sociological and scientific phenomena.

7. Exhibits well-established logical and methodological fallacies;
Formal and informal logical fallacies are readily identifiable among the key steps of the argument.

8. Is produced and circulated by 'outsiders', often anonymous, and generally lacking peer review;
Story originates with a person who lacks any insider contact or knowledge, and enjoys popularity among persons who lack critical (especially technical) knowledge.

9. Is upheld by persons with demonstrably false conceptions of relevant science;
At least some of the story's believers believe it on the basis of a mistaken grasp of elementary scientific facts.

10. Enjoys zero credibility in expert communities;
Academics and professionals tend to ignore the story, treating it as too frivolous to invest their time and risk their personal authority in disproving.

11. Rebuttals provided by experts are ignored or accommodated through elaborate new twists in the narrative;
When experts do respond to the story with critical new evidence, the conspiracy is elaborated (sometimes to a spectacular degree) to discount the new evidence, often incorporating the rebuttal as a part of the conspiracy.'

 


 

Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top

Any thoughts on the Obama Deception?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

An hour and fifty three minutes? You can't be serious.

Show me someone that watched more than a minute of this and I'll show you someone whose time is worthless.

 

 

Reply #46 from Demigod Forums Top

Just about everyone who made a comment on the comment page of the video on youtube.

Reply #47 from Sins Forums Top

i had to stop watching it 2 minutes in :zzz: . the 2 minutes i saw... 

 

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you really want people to waste their time on this? 8|  

 

Theres my 2¢

           The Great Annoyed Admiral Rain

Reply #48 from Demigod Forums Top

Why is it that for the last eight years people have been posting this kind of stuff against Bush and many people thought it was fine and enlightening, but now that other people are posting this kind of crap against Obama it is Wrong and stupid.  I am not saying one is right and the other is wrong, but this whole double standards thing is just absurd.

Reply #49 from Elemental Forums Top

The difference was, the vast majority of stuff against Bush was satirical in nature, and seen as such. This birther stuff is, if you will pardon the expression, dead serious.

Reply #50 from Demigod Forums Top

Double standard; welcome to society.

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