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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #126 from Demigod Forums Top

I'll update the op soon with those names... i see i did miss 2nana - not intentional

I find anyone in general that has a win % of 70 or higher does this.

Yup.  Fairly true statement.  Most of us with high win % pick our battles somewhat carefully.  I don't do anything to the degree of demanding people choose x character when I'm pugging, but I typically join games when they are first made, when they are hosted by players I know are good.  Or just host my own.  There's definitely an advantage in being a good player, but the logic still goes that if there is any real sense of balance, even really good players will lose close to half of their games. The idea of getting a challenge simply due to having weak players on my team is not desirable.  Some might enjoy spending most of their effort on saving their teammates, but I don't anyway.  I'd rather the challenge come from playing against good players and actually learning something from the defeat (outside of the obvious, weak player dies multiple times or doesn't assist ever on kills, etc, I lose).  And as a result, I don't typically play games where I have to take on 2 weak teammates for the sake of "balance" because the balance is obviously not in my favor.  When players call for BALANCE!, they are obviously saying that they feel the current teams unfair.  But the balancing decision typically results in the teams being stacked in the guy wanting balance's favor, as the silly norm is to balance based on win %.  And again, a high win % indicates that while you probably aren't a lousy player, most of your wins come as a result of playing in games that are your favor.  This, logically, leads high win % people to leave the game instead of risking a loss when they feel they are at a disadvantage after the call for balance, which will in many cases swing the balance into the other teams favor. 

Anybody start playing together again yet?  I think I've put up 2 games now (more when I'm back in town).  1 was a straight up pug.  The other was 2 pre + 1 pug vs 2 pre + 1 pug.  I don't think I've drawn any people from the list in yet.  Anyone playing with people that are on this list that don't normally?

 

 

Reply #127 from Demigod Forums Top

list updated

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Reply #128 from Demigod Forums Top

Also - try to pay more attention in your next few games... does anyone stand out as an exceptional player?  Post them here.

Nomil - let's play a game soon - together or against.

Reply #129 from Demigod Forums Top

I would like to second Darz4 and Archon_Saar(and maybe some other on that list aswell but I haven't played with them enough). Archon is good with more than DA though! Also I'd like to add lifekatana, he's playing a quite dangerous Qot which I hate to be on the other side of.

Reply #130 from Demigod Forums Top

ve beaten most of these guys in 1on1 pfff

1v1 != 3v3 cause the teamplay and gameplay are completely different imo

 

Reply #131 from Demigod Forums Top

gl_Mithrander is pretty good with Oak and Ereb.

Reply #132 from Demigod Forums Top

I check to see if I missed any updates later tonight.  Hoping to be online tonight as well for some gaming, but not sure if that will work out.  pm me if you are around and up for a game. 

Reply #133 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Zen_God, reply 125
have beaten most of these guys in 1on1 pfff

Said guy who rage quits almost any pro game (i have been in more then 5 games that you rage quit before 10th minute). You even rage quit 1v1 with me. And thanks to our hard working frogboy that game shows as inclomplete NOT as your loss.

 

oo7_warhammer great beast and mean regulus. sometimes, just sometimes he goes too hard for a kill but who dosnt :D. Gkrit(oak) and JayKayz have mean oak ereb combo - very high skilled

Reply #134 from Demigod Forums Top

updated the list

Reply #136 from Demigod Forums Top

Rawwwr and pacov are already in there, and pretty much every player who thinks he's good (including me) claims to be the good with the entire demigodrepetoire.

Reply #137 from Demigod Forums Top

and pretty much every player who thinks he's good (including me) claims to be the good with the entire demigodrepetoire.

true... but did you notice how I pick on people who nominate themselves?  I do know what you mean, though.

 

I'm thinking I'm going to start hosting more XvX Expert/Friends games.  I've been hosting them, but I generally get people who are not on this list joining.  So, I'm going to try passwording the games.  The password will be meh.  I'll put this in the op.  If that fails, I'll just rehost them without a password. 

I'm also thinking about how to handle removing people from this list or creating a hall of fame section and a cheating stat jerk section.  Trying to figure out how to do that without starting a rediculous flame war. Meh I say.

Reply #138 from Demigod Forums Top

Top aus/nz players imo - no particular order:

007_warhammer

irek

gkrit

myself :)

JayKayz

Swoxks

superfishy

mixmagic

nzac - not sure if he is still playing

 

Reply #139 from Demigod Forums Top

@ exxcentric,

 

whos this 007_war charater?

I am now a little scared lmao.

when oo7 (myself) and 007 come together the heavens will weep!

 

I would like to nominate my rook as a mean charter,

big health stack 11k health rook  - holding a big fat WARhammer is a mean barsted!

Reply #140 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov,

 

I would advice you to take another password than meh. Meh is kinda bleh, I'm sure everyone forgets it in a day. Better have a memorable password.

Reply #141 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 140
Pacov,
I would advice you to take another password than meh. Meh is kinda bleh, I'm sure everyone forgets it in a day. Better have a memorable password.

Maybe... I'm kind of leaning that the passworded game isn't going to be all that successful due to low population, but we'll see.  For now I'll keep it meh.  If you have a super suggestion, I'm all ears.

Reply #142 from Demigod Forums Top

Hang out in chat?

Edit: Oh, and I dunno if you still wanted to mention people who don't play anymore (I'm workin him to get him back) but Chefdick24 was a fantastic Reg.

Reply #143 from Demigod Forums Top

updated list

Reply #147 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov, can we get a tournament going? I've contacted Deman from Quadv, a shoutcasting/live-commentary site and he's willing to commentate a few games of demigod. This would obviously be an enourmous boon to the community.

Reply #148 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov, can we get a tournament going? I've contacted Deman from Quadv, a shoutcasting/live-commentary site and he's willing to commentate a few games of demigod. This would obviously be an enourmous boon to the community.

I will join :)

Reply #150 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov, can we get a tournament going? I've contacted Deman from Quadv, a shoutcasting/live-commentary site and he's willing to commentate a few games of demigod. This would obviously be an enourmous boon to the community.

Interesting.  I'd be up for a tourney, I suppose, but we'd probably have to find a way to make it a true pug tourney... and that get's tricky for teams... I don't know.  I'm not up for organizing a tourney, but I'd participate.  Our last tourney had a pretty small showing.