On the first day of the long 4th of July Holiday weekend, a day no doubt chosen to minimize press scrutiny, Sarah Palin announced that she would serve out her elected term of office, but would instead turn the reins over to the state's Lieutenant Governor, Sean Parnell. She stated in her resignation speech that one of the factors motivating her resignation was the high cost to both the state and to the Palin family of defending her against the 15 ethics complaints that had been brought against her in the two and and a half years since she had assumed office and added that her continued service would not be "best for Alaska." (I am only quoting part of her remarks, but lest I be accused of taking them out of context, please see http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/full-text-of-palins-resignation-speech.php for the complete and unedited transcript of her speech.)

Ms. Palin's resignation came one day after MSNBC journalist Keith Olbermann had published a series of emails in which then Govenor Palin had tried to get John McCain's campaign manager, Steve Schmidt, to lie on her behalf during the last campaign in order to cover up Todd Palin's long-time membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party:

"Please get in front of that ridiculous issue that's cropped up all day today - two reporters, a protester's sign, and many shout-outs all claiming Todd's involvement in an anti-American political party. It's bull, and I don't want to have to keep reacting to it...Pls have statement given on this so it's put to bed."
[October 15th 2008, Gov Palin email to Steve Schmidt, Source CBS News]

"Ignore it. He was a member of the AIP? My understanding is yes. That is part of their platform. Do not engage the protesters. If a reporter asks say it is ridiculous. Todd loves America."
[October 15th 2008, Steve Schmidt email to Gov. Palin, Source CBS News]

"That's not part of their platform and he was only a member BC Independent Alaskans too often check that Alaska Independent box on voter registrations thinking it just means non partisan. He caught his error when changing our address and checked the right box. I still want it fixed."
[October 15th 2008, Gov. Palin email to Steve Schmidt, Source CBS News]

"Secession, it is their entire reason for existence. A cursory examination of the website shows that the party exists for the purpose of seceding from the Union. That is the stated goal on the front page of the website. Our records indicate that Todd was a member for seven years. If this is incorrect then we need to understand the discrepancy. The statement you are suggesting be released would be inaccurate. [sic] The inaccuracy [sic] would bring greater media attention to this matter and be a distraction. According to your staff there have been no media inquiries into this and you received no questions about it during your interviews. If you are asked about it you should smile and say many Alaskans who love their country join the party because it speaks [sic] to a tradition of political independence. Todd loves his country. We will not put out a statement and inflame this and create a situation where John has to address this."
[October 15th 2008, Steve Schmidt email to Gov. Palin, Source CBS News]

Recently, she has even come under fire from Conservative columnists and bloggers. For example, this post comes from the Drudge Report site commenting onthe recent Vanity Fair article "It Came From Wasilla": "Despite her disastrous performance in the 2008 election, Sarah Palin is still the sexiest brand in Republican politics, with a lucrative book contract for her story. But what Alaska's charismatic governor wants the public to know about herself doesn't always jibe with reality."

Charles Krauthammer speaking on Fox News more or less completely dismissed Me. Palin her as a seriousl candidate for President:

"Now, as to Palin, I agree entirely with what Mara [Liasson] said -- she is, she has star power without any doubt, she has an extremely devoted following, but she is not a serious candidate for the presidency."

"She had to go home and study and spend a lot of the time on issues with which she was not adept last year. And she hasn't."

"She has to stop speaking in cliches and platitudes. It won't work. It could work for eight weeks if you're the No. 2 candidate, as she was last year. But even so, she got singed a lot in that campaign. You cannot sustain a campaign of platitudes and clichés over a year and a half if you’re running for the presidency."

Having stepped down as Govenor of Alaska, she has more or less lost her platform for any Presidential attempt. I am certain that she will still make an attempt at the office, further widening the divide between economic and political conservatives and social conservatives. And as a Liberal Democrat, I must acknowledge that I welcome the divisiveness that she will bring to the primaries.

How long, would you guess, before Sarah Palin is the host of a right-wing talk show?

 

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For anyone who wants more links:

Full transcript of Palin's resignation (previously cited) : http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/full-text-of-palins-resignation-speech.php

Time Magazine "Why Sarah Palin Quit": http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908669,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

Email transcripts (and, yes, I know it it Daily Kos, so wash your hand's afterwards): http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/3/749632/-Olbermanns-Countdown-publishes-emailson-same-day-Palin-resigns-as-Gov.-Is-there-a-connection-

Charles Krauthammer: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/krauthammer-voices-beltway-view-pali

Vanity Fair's article, "It Came From Wasilla: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908

 

 

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Oh, and my September 5th, 2008 article comparing Sarah Palin to Tom Eagleton: http://kupe.joeuser.com/article/323411/Sarah_Palin_Republican_Eagleton

That was written BEFORE 60% of the electorate said in exit polls that they thought she was unfit for office.

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a day no doubt chosen to minimize press scrutiny

Said (written) with an apparently totally straight face.  Has to be one of the funniest unintentional jokes in a long time.

I expected you to return and dump some more crap on your favorite politician, and you've not let me down.

You really do protest too much.  And there never was a valid comparison between her & Eagleton.  Still isn't, so I don't see how you think that article is anything to gloat about.

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I, and most of us reading this, don't live in Alaska, so this is supposed to be important how? Last I checked the governer of Alaska means nothing to me.

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Havent heard anything from Larry since, well, since Palin first announced for VP. We need more objective, fair, and non partisan people like Larry on the internet.

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the "friday afternoon news dump" is oldschool politics...she did it, lots of people do it...big whoop. 

if she's lookin to make money as a private citizen...smart move.

if she's lookin to raise money for an upcoming defense on embezzlement charges that are more likely than not to be leveled...possibly smart...but the politics of it all could end up biting her in the butt. 

if she thinks she has a prayer in 2012 as the banner ad below (as i am reading)  would unofficially indicate...dumb move. 

sarah tends to act just like the right wingers round here...talkin in circles and platitudes,,,,lashing out at others while playing the victim and ignoring facts as often as possible. and afraid of dissenting views. 

 

 

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Why are liberals sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

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Why are liberals sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

Since we're in that ballpark boy-o...why is it that people like you are so pretentious? It's unbelievably annoying. Really, come on...

Be well, ~Alderic

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To address Nitro's question, far from being afraid of her, Liberals love Sarah! She is a divisive element in Republican politics, unlikely to attract Conservative elements within the Democratic party or swing voters. In fact, there are many elements in the Republican party, sometimes called RINOs by their detractors, who would rather vote for the Democrat candidate than to vote for any ticket with Gov. Palin on it.

Le me offer this thought. If John McCain had selected Mitt Romney as his running mate, McCain would be President today.

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I think she is becoming the next president of Honduras.

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Le me offer this thought. If John McCain had selected Mitt Romney as his running mate, McCain would be President today.

I think so too.

I think he was forced to select Palin to placate the Republican right-wing.

Mitt Romney would have been an excellent candidate.

(Although I would have been ecstatic if he had chosen Joe Liebermann.)

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While I agree that Todd's association with the AIP is going to be a major stumbling block, she still has a shot as Obama was able to prove with his connections.  While I know the Liberals are gleefully celebrating Palin's resignation I think they are VERY concerned about what her plans are.

It is highly doubtful that Palin stepped down as a result of these emails.  This is pathetically lame but not surprising coming from the leftist opinionist Olbermann (he is HARDLY a journalist). 

I find it rather peculiar, Larry, that you omit the fact that the rulings of ALL 15 ethics complaints ALL came out in Palin's favor.  Why is that?  Liberals have constantly gone after her and according to Palin's resignation speech has cost the state around $2million in these failed complaints. These complaints have put her in the hole a half a mil. in legal fees.  It seems to me that the liberals were trying to bankrupt Palin and they were winning.  This is utterly disgraceful!

LINK

 

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Le me offer this thought. If John McCain had selected Mitt Romney as his running mate, McCain would be President today.

Pure speculation.  Let me counter with mine.  If McCain hadn't chosen Palin he would have lost by a landslide. 

Palin drew larger crowds than Romney did and considering the length Romney was in the lime light it's a long shot to suggest Romney would have helped McCain's ticket more than Palin did.

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Palin drew larger crowds than Romney did and considering the length Romney was in the lime light it's a long shot to suggest Romney would have helped McCain's ticket more than Palin did.

I don't think so. There were many Hillary supporters who were very unhappy with Obama.

But they hated Palin for some reason or another.

But none of Hillary's supporters had a real problem with John McCain, whose qualities (for a Republican) they always acknowledged.

I guess McCain should have chosen Hillary as vice-presidential candidate. Wouldn't have been a bad team either.

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Why are liberals sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

Since we're in that ballpark boy-o...why is it that people like you are so pretentious? It's unbelievably annoying. Really, come on...

Be well, ~Alderic

ROTFLMAO. When have you seen me write an article or even give Palin any real support? If I'm pretentious it's because liberals (like yourself) can't shut up about here and let her fade away. Oh that's right you're a Libertarian, I have to keep reminding myself, since your posts rarely reflect those viewpoints.:rofl: :rofl:

far from being afraid of her, Liberals love Sarah! She is a divisive element in Republican politics, unlikely to attract Conservative elements within the Democratic party or swing voters.

You might be correct, however it also exposes a big flaw in the Democratic party, you know the party of inclusion. It's that rabid hatred of anyone that doesn't agree in lock-step with the party. The evilness of trying to destroy someone so throughly, you'd think it was a motion picture. The clothes are definitely off the Emperor, and many of it's own members are seeing it first hand.

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Why are liberals sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

Since we're in that ballpark boy-o...why is it that people like you are so pretentious? It's unbelievably annoying. Really, come on...

Be well, ~Alderic

The petulant one calls someone pretentious and annoying.  Wow!   }:)

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ROTFLMAO. When have you seen me write an article or even give Palin any real support? If I'm pretentious it's because liberals (like yourself) can't shut up about here and let her fade away. Oh that's right you're a Libertarian, I have to keep reminding myself, since your posts rarely reflect those viewpoints.

 

You come across, often, as haughty and as if liberals are beneath you, inferior, stupid, etc. So yes, pretentious. Don't like the feedback? Don't wear it then. As for not shutting up about her, you're being an obtuse ass. In fact, I wrote an article about her recently where I wished her well, etc. I didn't demonize her. Surprised? I'm sure.

How have my points not reflected libertarianism? Oh, my bad, you're probably under the mindset that Libertarians are one way only.

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Le me offer this thought. If John McCain had selected Mitt Romney as his running mate, McCain would be President today.

He would have gotten one less vote from me... I can't stand Mitt Romney. Romney's like a Republican version of Bill Clinton. His stepford wife and village of the damned sons creep me out as well.

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The petulant one calls someone pretentious and annoying. Wow!

I just don't have tolerance for certain things, one of them being what comes across as petty and childish. I mean really - come one. Does he only have insults and other negative comments about liberals and others like them? Not like anything of that flavor is constructive, or remotely intelligent. Woooh, lets throw insults and trash them. Yeah, right.

Besides, I'm proud to be "petulant" as you say, since it implies to me that I've the courage to stand up for what I believe, instead of being a coward.  Or, as the quote goes, "I would rather face death with my beliefs etched in my heart, than silent and already dead."

 

Be well,  ~Alderic

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Besides, I'm proud to be "petulant" as you say, since it implies to me that I've the courage to stand up for what I believe, instead of being a coward.  Or, as the quote goes, "I would rather face death with my beliefs etched in my heart, than silent and already dead."

Really?

 

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I just don't have tolerance for certain things, one of them being what comes across as petty and childish. I mean really - come one. Does he only have insults and other negative comments about liberals and others like them? Not like anything of that flavor is constructive, or remotely intelligent. Woooh, lets throw insults and trash them. Yeah, right.

My original post:

Why are liberals sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

I suppose posing a question is considered pretentious to some? How insulting, isn't it? Talk about intolerance. This it the effect I'm exploring about many of todays neo-liberals (whom I don't believe are beneath me, BTW). Any sign of disagreement from their views is taken personally and then attacked, as you accurately express... intolerance. They often use an elitist attitude such as this "Not like anything of that flavor is constructive, or remotely intelligent", to make themselves feel superior. Brad did a good article on this perception months ago.

You come across, often, as haughty and as if liberals are beneath you, inferior, stupid, etc. So yes, pretentious. Don't like the feedback? Don't wear it then. As for not shutting up about her, you're being an obtuse ass. In fact, I wrote an article about her recently where I wished her well, etc. I didn't demonize her. Surprised? I'm sure.

My original post did not say:

Why is liberal AJ sooo afraid of her? Interesting.

Must it always be about you? Didn't get much love as a child? I guess if you consider yourself the self-appointed protector of liberals on JU (that sounds pretentious to me) then you have a point. My question was directed to the OP, you had not even chimed in at this point.

Yeah, saw your article about Palin, posted there myself, you wished her well...blah, blah, blah, great she must be on your mind, and no I'm not surprised as you are one of the less consistent writers on JU, IMO. Tell me why the defender of all that's liberal would even care to write an article about her? Why are liberals so fascinated by Palin? You can't have it both ways.

Oh and I've seen many Libertarians speak, you my friend, come nowhere remotely close (with what I've seen of your writings here) in sharing the same ideas on major topics associated with that political party. Again I post the LP's web page LINK to let others decide if I'm not being fair to you or not on this issue. Personally, I think you'd be much happier just moving over to the Democrat Party, they appear much more in-line with what you express on this site. Or you can try DU, if you find yourself more in agreement with the posters on that site, you should possibly consider a change of party. 

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Does he only have insults and other negative comments about liberals and others like them?

Answer the question for yourself. Here's a start : https://forums.joeuser.com/358578

I know misrepresentation of facts is a big component of the lefts political agenda, but who would think it filters down to their minions for personal attack use?

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I just don't have tolerance for certain things, one of them being what comes across as petty and childish. I mean really - come one. Does he only have insults and other negative comments about liberals and others like them? Not like anything of that flavor is constructive, or remotely intelligent. Woooh, lets throw insults and trash them. Yeah, right.

Besides, I'm proud to be "petulant" as you say, since it implies to me that I've the courage to stand up for what I believe, instead of being a coward. Or, as the quote goes, "I would rather face death with my beliefs etched in my heart, than silent and already dead."



Be well, ~Alderic

AJ, Lucas, whatever....

I wonder why in the world you even considered NC's comment offensive.  The article was written by Larry (not you).  There isn't a recorded comment from you before NC's comment, so I fail to see how this was written towards you.  Second point, you claim to be a libertarian NOT a Liberal as was addressed in NC's comment. 

With that said please show me how NC's comment was directed towards you?

As for being petulant:

pet⋅u⋅lant

–adjective

moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.

LINK

Me thinks you like to continue to play the victim card pretending that it is something to stand on?

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I suppose posing a question is considered pretentious to some? How insulting, isn't it? Talk about intolerance. This it the effect I'm exploring about many of todays neo-liberals (whom I don't believe are beneath me, BTW). Any sign of disagreement from their views is taken personally and then attacked, as you accurately express... intolerance. They often use an elitist attitude such as this "Not like anything of that flavor is constructive, or remotely intelligent", to make themselves feel superior. Brad did a good article on this perception months ago.

 

It's the constant attitude; I've yet to see you one truly positive thing about anyone that isn't the same flavor as you. If you can do that, then I will concede that I am wrong and even walk around for a week wearing a pink tutu.

Oi vey...dude, the comment about constructiveness and intelligence could be applied to ANYONE. It was a rehtorical, and rather sarcastic remark about generalizations, fallacies, venom, etc. that is spewed by those who oppose anything. In this case, it was aimed at your comments.

 

Yeah, saw your article about Palin, posted there myself, you wished her well...blah, blah, blah, great she must be on your mind, and no I'm not surprised as you are one of the less consistent writers on JU, IMO. Tell me why the defender of all that's liberal would even care to write an article about her? Why are liberals so fascinated by Palin? You can't have it both ways.

o_O

Why? Well gee, I think it has to do with something like maybe I was interested in seeing what people thought about her stepping down. I found it interesting that she seemed to be so gung ho about everything, and then she just stopped. I conceded that perhaps she really was just tired of it, but that from her past actions (etc) it seemed like maybe she was going on stand by before pursuing a possible nomination run. Then again I could be wrong.

Btw, I'm not a defender of just liberals; I would defend anyone. She was actually only on my mind when I happened to catch the headline that she had stepped down. Sorry, she's just not my type of wet dream. :P Why are they? Who knows. Why are people fascinated by that asshole Obama? Why are people fascinated by anything? I don't know, and I can't say because I am not all knowing. I can only guess.

 

Must it always be about you? Didn't get much love as a child? I guess if you consider yourself the self-appointed protector of liberals on JU (that sounds pretentious to me) then you have a point. My question was directed to the OP, you had not even chimed in at this point.

Did I say it was about me? Did I say anywhere that I felt insulted? No. I said I found it utterly annoying. My bad, guess you're not allowed to do that anymore. Guess you have to stop too.

I'm not claiming to be a protector. You're implying that. All I'm getting at....is why? Just as you infer through my posts that I am some wild and crazy liberal, I've inferred through your posts that you rarely if ever say anything positive about liberals/left wingers/etc. I could be wrong, and if I am, then I truly apologize for that and my knee jerk reaction.

 

AJ, Lucas, whatever....

I wonder why in the world you even considered NC's comment offensive. The article was written by Larry (not you). There isn't a recorded comment from you before NC's comment, so I fail to see how this was written towards you. Second point, you claim to be a libertarian NOT a Liberal as was addressed in NC's comment.

With that said please show me how NC's comment was directed towards you?

Does someone have to be black to find the word Nigger offensive? How about mexican and spic? I found it annoying, because it comes across like any and all of the pundits (on both sides). All they do is "yap yap yap," and generalize, etc. Maybe I just would like to see something constructive...rather than destructive. All of this crap, liberal or conservative or blue or green or purple or red...it all is fucking annoying. I would still make the comments I made, due to annoyince/irritation, toward a liberal, or libertarian or whoever. It isn't about me "apparently" being liberal, and it isn't about you being whatever you are, and it isn't about parties. It's about the attitude that really...really annoys me.

 

Personally, I think you'd be much happier just moving over to the Democrat Party, they appear much more in-line with what you express on this site. Or you can try DU, if you find yourself more in agreement with the posters on that site, you should possibly consider a change of party.

 

DU? Oh hell no, they're nuts. They make crazy people look sane. As for the Dem party - hell no.

 

But...whatever, to each their own. We're all going to continue throwing vitrol at each other and we'll still be screwed. =\

 

Me thinks you like to continue to play the victim card pretending that it is something to stand on?

 

Why would I want to play the victim card? What point is there?

 

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Btw...Nitro - I read that link, and admit that, while I do not apologize for my beliefs, I was wrong; I apologize for my largely knee jerk reaction.

 

~A