Patriotism, a little FYI

IF I was gonna do a July 4th thang I'd just submit it here. That site is a little too far to the right for my taste......

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lol, are we now calling Patriotism to far to the right?  You obviosuly didn't look at the site completely.  What did you do?  See one picture with George Bush and came to this conclusion?

nope

but hey  this was just a suggestion for anyone that was interested... no big

Showing patriotism for the USA is noble and honorable!
And your contribution to USA Patriotism! is appreciated!

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It doesn't qualify as 'spam' as it is skin/theme - related and thus 'may' be of interest to Wincustomize users....;)

no...not just "now" but for at least the last 9 years 

It is strange how being *Patriotic* does not seem to be the way to be anymore.  I remember starting the day at school with a strong *Pledge of Allegiance* and a prayer, is that still the way in schools today, I wonder.  My Mother and those in her generation have a very strong patriotism, I do also, but maybe not quite as visible.  I have wondered if people in other countries feel a sense of patriotism.  I am proud to be an American, but this does not mean I am always happy with or proud of my government ( on all levels ). 

Yes, but most don't wear it on their sleeve quite as much as the Americans seem to do.

About as patriotic as we Aussies get is mumbling along to the song..."We come from a land down-under...."

It's a sign of 'belonging' if you can't actually remember the words to our anthem....;)

I personally do not know what  is meant by this.

probably my spam detector is set higher than yours however, for me, any entity that solicits money either through products, services or donations and is not something I engaged in is spam. WC sends me emails on occasion touting weekend specials and the like, it is spam even though I belong to WC. would you consider receiving emails or mail for car insurance or to extend your car warranty is not spam because you own a car. the list goes on and on.

well, being an American maybe I don't see what you mean but I would assume you're probably just as patriotic about Australia as I am about the USA. I'm neither a "love it or leave it" or "down with capitalism" kind of person. those are extremes that the media plays up for revenues (you don't trust Murdock, do you?) To me, the site referred to is using the banner of patriotism to sell product. maybe Bancroft is on the level but...

I like the quiet patriot. The one who truly lives our ideals without talking about it or hoopla: Hanging flags (not that I don't love ours and not that it's a bad thing to do), and wearing lapel pins are not required. The kind who serves others quietly without seeking recognition, and is a hero without being a bully.

He/she is willing to stand between his/her home and war's desolation, and stand in harm's way to protect and defend....but is not anxious to kill or harm. He/she is a leader and follower...and while holding the law supreme, knows seeking justice is more important, and that it should be seen being done and doesn't confuse it with revenge. He/she walks humbly, secure in his/her love of our land and people and what they stand for each in his/her own special and infinitely precious way.

If that makes any sense.

@ jafo....... Men At Work.....................nice. :)   That song's a classic.

There are a few 'indicators' that will see an instant thread removal, accompanied by an Exiling and/or IP Ban.

This doesn't have any of them specifically....;)

oh, it's not... oops, I'm so gullible.

Good grief... 

Well it can't be the Vegemite sandwich... we don't effing own it anymore, along with a lot of other Aussie icons that got sold/bought from under us.  So yeah, the song is about all we got left... though it's probably on a foreign owned label these days.

My view of patriotism... do no harm to others... don't steal; don't cheat; don't lie; don't kill; don't thieve; don't covet thy neighbours wife or commit adultery; don't go out of your way to be a bastard to anyone. 

Yup, pretty much the 10 Commandments, but it makes for a stronger society that'll stand shoulder to shoulder in all conditions to support one another.... your contrymen and women.  Sadly, however, at any given moment, right around the World, there are people turning on, killing, maiming and stealing from their own people.. the least patriotic thing anyone could do because it is a betrayal of one's own national identity/culture/upbringing, etc.

*my tuppence worth*

well said Doc...

You make a fine point here, Karen, and one that more people should/could embrace... that we're all human beings and therefore we should care about one another. However, my view of patriotism, looking out for your countrymen/women, is not one that's confined by national borders.  That should be a given, but it should extend also to other peoples of other nationalities, simply because they are human beings with the same basic needs as everyone else.

Besides, what is nationalism/patriotism these days anyhow??  With globalisation and migration, many countries have multi-cultural populations these days... migrants who integrate well and who are proud to call their new countries home.  There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's national identity or heritage, however, it helps to define us, and there is nothing wrong with belonging to a particular group, providing that group is not exclusive of or detrimental towards others.

There is a thin line between Patriotism and Fanaticism...the most important thing is don't surpass that line

Oh I over-step that line all the time... I'm fanatical when our cricketers meet the Poms to reclaim the Ashes; possessed when our footballers (rugby league) stick it to the Kiwis and the Poms.

But yeah, we have far too many fanaticists and zealots causing havoc in the World... those who are overly consumed with their own self importance and agendas to consider the harm they've done/are doing; the atrocities they commit to further their own cause.

At least when our cricketers/footballers trounce the opposition they'll go and have a friendly beer afterwards.

thanx, Skinhit.

Most Americans are unable to separate the words American/patriot, believing they are the same thing.

The UK is the opposite. Here, the politically correct do-gooders would have you believe being patriotic = being racist. So we are unable to display our national flag outside our houses/public buildings in case it causes offence.

If it were up to me I'd get together all the committee-forming, tree-hugging, do-gooders and have them shot as traitors.

Yes, Andrew Symonds is the perfect example ;p