Experience seriously Bugged (with screenshot) ???? (Move to Technical Support if needed)

Take a look at this image:

 

http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elobroken.jpg

 

How exactly is that calculated? Why me with 5W 0L and 700 favor points have less than one with 0W 3L ??? I even have 735 favor points!!

 

IMO everything is really messed up right now

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Reply #1 Top

I would say its probably bugged.

Reply #2 Top

great, like favor wasnt enough

Reply #3 Top


How exactly is that calculated? Why me with 5W 0L and 700 favor points have less than one with 0W 3L ???

Gonna have to post links mate. 

Also, it's an Elo rating system. This means it's impossible for someone 5-0 to have a lower score then someone 0-3, so I must assuming you're lying or simply got the wrong data. That, or the system is broken. 

Reply #4 Top

Yes, its totally broken. Check out this page of the current tourney stats [as of 11:00 PST Thurs,April 30]  You'll see there's very little to no correlation between W/L ratio (or number of games played) and experience.

For instance, consider:

Bertl025 (first in list) with a  W/L of 1.0
zxzxza
(third) with a            W/L of 2.75

Despite a an almost 3:1 difference in their W/L ration, they're only two places apart, out of more than 6000.  Moreover, the 1.0 W/L is ahead of the 2.75. Even moreover, the 2.75 W/L has played almost 3x the number of games. And, just for good measure, the 2.75 W/L has more favor points, which actually appears to be affecting rank negatively

I'm at a loss for a rational explanation as to why Bertl025 (nothing personal Bert) is ahead of zxzxz.

 

Rank Player Experience Favor Points Wins Losses Playtime Team
6,212 Bertl025 940 430 3 3 215 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,213 bluhoney 940 1,075 7 3 255 minutes Forces of Light
6,214 zxzxza 940 1,335 11 4 468 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,215 Poseidon302 940 725 5 4 318 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,216 Shawnzzy 940 20 0 2 66 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,217 abysal 940 50 0 2 79 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,218 Altwight 940 225 2 2 104 minutes Forces of Light
6,219 Gigglinpig 939 35 0 2 54 minutes Forces of Light
6,220 ZiberWulf 939 65 0 2 87 minutes Forces of Light
6,221 kri123 939 110 1 2 94 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,222 slashdice 939 240 2 3 165 minutes Forces of Light
6,223 terrynguyen 939 540 2 3 180 minutes Forces of Light
6,224 AznDucK 939 675 4 3 266 minutes Forces of Light
6,225 mawdudi 939 50 0 2 49 minutes Forces of Light
6,226 proyjr 938 80 0 2 106 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,227 Auginator 938 165 1 2 88 minutes Forces of Light
6,228 laffercd 938 20 0 2 71 minutes Forces of Light
6,229 joecsway 938 495 3 3 197 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,230 Templar 938 35 0 2 43 minutes Forces of Darkness
6,231 LoL_ik 937 120 0 2 66 minutes Forces of Darkness
Reply #6 Top

the system work with experiences point , you can loose a game and earn more XP then someone who won a game, just because you had more kills , killed more grunts , bought more citadel upgrade , captured more flags , destroyed buildings and did overall more dmg then the players who won .

I don't think the system is broken, I just think that it isn't showing what really matter : the overall skill of the player !

P.S : this is just a random though and have no fact to back it up XD !

Reply #7 Top

since I have 735 favor points, means I also had many achievemts, so no, your theory is not correct

Reply #8 Top

I never ( or rarely ) saw a guy on the loosing team getting anything else then ''participant'' as achievement , even if they were really good players . so Favor points shouldn't mean much if he didn't win a single game yet .

 

P.S random though , nothing to back it up , again ... :P !

Reply #9 Top

and in their constant loosing they have more experience than those who win....then let's keep loosing ;) :P

 

system is about facts not feelings. The algoritm is based on somthing precise and in that regards it is broken.

Reply #10 Top

Hey Dracook, check the posted image again and locate magnum101 0W 1L 15M playtime. And try to figure out what he managed to do in that time to get the same experience as all the rest ;)

Reply #11 Top

Quoting PeoB, reply 10
Hey Dracook, check the posted image again and locate magnum101 0W 1L 15M playtime. And try to figure out what he managed to do in that time to get the same experience as all the rest
lol, gotta admit that this one is pretty insane XD ! but the dude with 1,119 minutes of playtime is even more ^_^

Reply #12 Top

It *might* be some combination of favor points + who you were playing against when those favor points were gained.

Reply #13 Top

As long as the player rankings are taking custom matches with AI's only into account, they don't really mean anything to me.  Look at the top 10 players, all of them have between 20-100 1-minute matches on prison.  If you can get ranking that way, ranking doesn't mean anything...

Reply #14 Top

TBH im more annoyed at the random disconnects on the loading screen and then getting loses from it.

 

Only Pantheon games i have lost so far have been when I / others have disconnected while loading into the game and it shows it up as a loss.

Reply #15 Top

The same issue is in Pantheon rankings...I have same stats or better than some top 20, but I'm no 200+

Reply #17 Top

Very usefull...

Anyway, on topic - I somehow think it correlates favor earned to number of minutes played. If that is the case then this is a complete FAIL

Reply #18 Top

At present, the rankers are in favor of the vauge use of Experience over Favor Points and Win/Lose ratios. Experience being the result of how many challanging battles you've faught. Killing someone more skilled than you gets you more Experience, farming new players for points gets you next to nothing.

Reply #19 Top

It doesn't matter exactly how they caculcate ranking, only that it be coherent and published. 

If we're not told how it works, we'll never trust it = why bother.