Houston, we have a Resolution problem. We think that there might be some bonus symbols on that PQ (heu, let's try counting the tiles; 15 + 1 yellow) paradise. We also remember that someone in the past was able to modify the PD & TCS files to create a full blast PQ72, but we can't find the member name at this moment.
Contact us as soon as you have increased your transmission ratio.
In the meantime, we'll be leaving orbit to dig up another planet with even MORE such predator tiles which was posted in the forums (IIRC, back in May'07) but the snapshot was at least 1024x768.
I see 2 libraries and 2 100% research bonus tiles. Some manufacturing ones too, but I'd guess they're not as important.
I have one that barely beats it with two libraries and one 300% research tile. I think KP had one with 3 libraries at one time.
Sorry for the small picture. I just recently tried to figure out how to post screenies with photobucket and i guess I still need to learn how to increase the size of the pictures or something. That is a nice one motti 
. My screeny was from awhile ago (while playing DA). Just haven't figured out how to post till now.
Now i remember, it was some lucky (luxurious, might be a better word!) planet played by KP.
So TR, you might want to have to look at this thread too... https://forums.galciv2.com/303352
PS; Motti, i'd rushbuy a BasicLab or more to get these chilling research figures, too! 
Checked out that planet KP started with 
. Don't think OMFG quite sums it up. Wonder how long it would take to go bankrupt with that planet?
Question: do you guys get these monsters on all-abundant gigantic? Did you pick "luck" in your abilities? Do you ever have any precursor tile on your homeworld? How often did you ctrl+N to get something even remotely like this?
Just curious
To my knowledge, no. KP's came from an immense rare map. I've gotten a few (not nearly as good, but far better than is usually seen in abundant all) from big, sparce maps. My theory is that the number of bonus tiles is scaled pretty well in terms of map size, but not so well in terms of planet count. Very large maps with few planets have a similar number of bonus tiles as the abundant all maps, but the game has less real estate to spread them over.
Hi!
I remember reading about a bonus tiles cap on HWs. IIRC for DA it was 3 or 4 bonus tiles max. What game version are you playing, Motti? 
BR, Iztok
Sure, I can beat it.
I very much doubt that planet was generated by the game. More likely a hack.
You will never get 2 700% research as well as 2 700% manufacturing tiles by 'luck'. Not to mention all the other ones.
I can recreate this, no problem. And even more. But it is only through cheating - modding the saved game file with a hex editor.
Im glad you guys think that, you are both wrong.
Gigantic galaxy, rare everything except anomolies and one AI.
Do that and see what ya get and then tell me someones cheating.
I have had 4 700% tiles before under these settings along with other bonuses. It is not uncommon to have all tiles of Iconis all be bonus tiles.
Seen it plenty.
Just because you've never got a planet like those doesn't mean they are cheating. I've played basketball many a time, but never dunked. I saw Shaq dunk once, that guy must be cheating to be able to dunk, because I can't dunk. They probably lowered the rim for him while he was jumping. Those hacking bastards!
I've played a lot of baseball, too. One time on TV I saw A-Rod hit a 600 ft homerun over the outfield wall. He must be cheating...oh wait, he actually IS cheating...
I think you all need to re-read Moosetek's post: it uses such qualifying phrases as "more likely" and "very much doubt." That said, in retrospect I would not necessarily use the word "cheating" to describe this kind of hack, but it could be applicable depending on one's point of view. By the way, I've played this game many, many times and my usual settings are on immense galaxy, "rare" planets and suns, and uncommon planets and abundant everything else. I have yet to ever see more than one 700% research tile and one 700% manufacturing tile in the entire galaxy under those settings. The best planet I ever had contained a 700%, two 300% and a single 100% manufacturing bonus tiles. That happened once. There were no other planets in the entire galaxy with another 700% manufacturing tile in that game.
If not done through a hack, I would be curious if perhaps these "super" planets are related to using the shortcut keys to restart the game? Although I've never used that shortcut, I am informed it does cause errors in the game. Just a thought, but I still believe that planet above was more likely than not a hack.
@TorontoRock - Bankruptcy (or less than -500bc) usually happens around March 1 of year 0 by design. That's what I shoot for, anyway. Sometimes, I have to adjust my spending down to make it to March 1. 
@Noctilucus - I didn't use luck. It was on a gigantic rare galaxy. I probably hit ctrl-n something like 5 or 6 times. I've found that ctrl-n will crash my machine if I hit it more than 5 or 6 times, sometimes it crashes after just one ctrl-n.
@Iztok - I got that one on DA 2.01. Actually, I've had many like it.
@Moosetek13 -You can kiss my rosy red ass. I owe you no explanation. 
@mac2411 - I'm sure you've read Moostek's post differently than I did. A matter of interpretation, I suppose. This is exactly what he said...
It looks pretty clear to me and I see no qualifying phrases in there at all.
As far as your insistance that it's some sort of hack, please refer to my above reply to your buddy Moosetek13.
My settings were all rare and probably gigantic (can't say for sure cause it was a long time ago) and it was while playing DA not TA. To those who think we were cheating remember that the guys who are seeing these planets (KP, neilo, Motti, myself and others as well) have played ALOT of games (literally hundreds each), and Mostly ZYW's. If playing for ZYW's on gigantic, this also means alot of ctrl-n's since you have to be reasonably close to your opponent in order to have a chance on a gigantic map. That translates into ALOT of looks at planets. Also, i can't remember exactly but i think i read in a post somewhere that SD scaled back the number of possible bonus tiles on homeworlds. Can anyone confirm this. Maybe this was just for TA perhaps? If you still think we're cheating then fine, up to you. On to more important things.
Does anyone use photobucket. For the life of me I can't figure out how to make my picture bigger. Do i use the direct link code or the HTML code (or the share URL)? When i go to the resize screen the size at the top is listed as 1023 X 767 which seems to be the maximum. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Appologies for my noobness 
. Hope everyone is well.
Duh - i can somehow detect a relatively complex situation above - like - maybe - pressing for luck rather than use it! 
Ah i think i fixed it . You can click on the picture to get a bigger size. PROGRESS!!!!!! 
TR, just put the URL for the originally sized at 1024x768 as is in between IMG tags and unclear the resize option in the above "tiny tree" shortcut when it pops up and it should show here correctly. I found that "ImageShack" does it all quite easily, too.
EDIT; see, that was easy!
So I suppose it could be said that I "very much doubt" you've gone past a 3rd grade education and that it is "more likely" you are a tool. Now I didnt call you either one since I used qualifying phrases, so don't get your panties in a wad.
What I will point out is that you said, in the same sentence no doubt, you would not use the word "cheating" to describe this kind of hack. Well, a hack would be cheating. Which I highly doubt any of them are. So they aren't cheating, but you still think they are using a hack?
Just because you've never seen it, doesn't mean it can't happen. Hell, I've never won the lottery, must be fake...
By your thinking, one could also say you must be a liar or a cheat as well. You mention playing this game "many many times" yet you have no metaverse record. I have never seen it, so you must be lying!! Of course, logically I know you dont have to post MV games to prove you've played one, but we threw logic out with your first reply didnt we?
@ Piznit - 
I won the lottery on at least two occasions. $3.00 both times.
That's in that range of, having played D&D a lot, I have seen extraordinary rolls too often to presume cheating - I've never had the "all 18's" I've heard some people claim they got (albeit, never seen). but I have had 17 17 17 16 15 15.
On the other hand - I've also caught people cheating at penny ante poker.
Since the odds on that set of rolls is (going by http://www.fnordistan.com/smallroller.html using 'x' or better) (1/54^3)*(5/108)*(5/54^2) = 125/49589822592 or about 1 in 396,718,581, you can damn well bet if my DM had not seen the rolls made, I would not have had the opportunity to play that character.
It is not ignorance to posit that such things arising are, in all likelihood, not the result of random chance, even given the sure knowledge that they can in fact happen by chance. But it's no more 'ignorant' to suggest it than I would have been insulted for a DM not letting me simply tell him/her "Of course I rolled those - have you ever caught me lying to you before?".
{G} - Jonnan
Whoa girls-don't get your panties in a twist. It was not my intent to insult anyone or get anyone up in arms about such an "issue" as this. In fact, I was trying to be nice by stating that I would not use the word "cheat" to describe what is being discussed. That word carries negative connotations that are unnecessary. It is a modification or error at best. This is just a game with nothing of real meaning at stake after all. Some of you all with the pretty little ribbons below your posts take this game and discussions of it a little too seriously I think. In short, it's a game guys. The personal attacks on me and others are simply unnecessary. Grow up a little.
Anyway, whether artfully stated or not (I don't spend much time crafting postings to a game forum), my point was that I think it more likely than not that the occurrence of this many bonus tiles on a single planet is the result of (1) a direct "hack;" or (2) errors introduced by use of the CTRL-N shortcut to restart the game. I don't think the game will generate that kind of planet absent those conditions. Is that the gospel? Of course not, but I do note that the OP stated he was using the game restart shortcut. Have a nice evening everyone.
The planets in question aren't particularly extraordinary. If you play ZYWs and choose the norm, which would be gigantic (or immense in TA), rare everything, one enemy and 8 minors, you're almost assured of coming across one of these planets. The odds are probably in the range of 5%, but I haven't worked them out. I have seen 2+ libraries as many as 3 times in a single day.
THe ZYW thread has a lot of information about these and it gives some pretty detailed instructions on what to do if you care to play this type of game. Playing a variety of game types keeps it interesting. The friendly competition makes it interesting too.
My reference to Moosetek's ignorance is based on his immediate spouting of "cheating" when he didn't even attempt to look at any other explanation, even with Zyp having posted a link to one of several threads explaining it. Perhaps I should have included laziness and arrogance as well as ignorance. My bad.
Whoa. this took off didn't it.
Firstly, and those who know me can predict what im about to say.
Mac2411. Your an asshat.
You still insist that this occurance is possibly a hack. And no it's not due to CTRL+N either.
I have played over 500 games all in the MV on one character, and not one of them has been hacked.
You have been told by all and sundry how these occurances happen, so re-read the thread and put up or shut up, please.
It's not a hack. It's not a result of ctrl+n.
Load up DA and play out a few games on these settings, then argue about it. What you think is about as relevant as tits on a bull.
It is proven.
I bet you don't believe about the moon landing either.
@TR, nice planet mate. (i can see it now). Shame its a hack and you will get a cheat flag for it though. 
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