Sub style problems

Kitty, what skin did you originally use for the template on your skin? The very original one you used?

well, everytime i make a new skin, i start afresh, so it would be the luna skin for vista? ...diamond i think?

Here is what I would try.

Backup your skin.

Then open the skin folder in windows explorer.

Delete any files you see with a wb4 extension.

Then reapply the skin. reload your skin in sks, make a new substyle, does it work? 

omg nighttrain...that worked!!! (huggles huggles huggles!!! and a kiss on the cheek!!)  WOW....how come that happened??

Im so excited......and your so wonderful for helping...............

Now use that skin for a template from now on.

Nighttrain?  I have one more question...in the startpanelloggoff section, how are those logg off buttons maouvered? is it through the text settings? (im so used to using 'content margins in sk5 for this part)....cause im moving the text position and nothing is happening......and i cant see where else to manipulate where they are sitting...

REALLY?? so just skin over it...from now on? but will it be okay if i rename it?....man this is scary...scary territory....

You will be fine. WHenever you rename the skin. Womanually remove any left over files with the same name that you just changed it from. Example Superskinv1 gets renamed to superduperskinv1. In the folder of the superduper skin, delete any non image files labeled superskinv1. You can build yourself a better template everytime you make a new skin as you are familiar with all the images. Diamond is missing some random coding as well.

The logoff buttons are controlled by the right pane image edge. You can't move the logoff buttons for Vista. Same with the search box. It's right side is set by the right pane image edge. It's all pretty screwy. Move hte buttons by manipulating the images. See my iSpire skin for example.  

You can adjust the laft edge of the saerch bar under the bottom bar extra tab.

no, I mean the logg off buttons for xp... Sorry, I should have been more specific.

yes, they are a little flexible.  use the text margins on the bottom bar.

awsome....okay thanks nighttrain....im very greatful..........

hmm those xp logg off buttons wont move when i play with the text margins on the startpanelloggoff......and also the username font on the userpane wont move or be changed either........... im not sure what to do at this point.....

Set the userpane alignment text to OS default then try moving the text. It's been awhile but one of those settings will allow the text to move.

Not sure what to say about the logoff buttons. I don't think I have eveer had any trouble with them.

I wont have access to XP today but if your stilll having trouble. Email me the skin . craig at cdoman dot com.

okays...thanks Nighttrain.

nighttrain...im going to send you my skin, i believe it is finished, but i want you to check it for me please? that would be really nice if you could.......hmm only one issue, in vista the little more options arrow seems to be acting funky....im not sure why....

you will get an email from me from google...so check yr junk just incase it goes there.