WSJ: Obama's 95% Illusion

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The WSJ has a great piece on Obama’s nonsense that 95% of Americans will receive a tax cut.

“One of Barack Obama's most potent campaign claims is that he'll cut taxes for no less than 95% of "working families." He's even promising to cut taxes enough that the government's tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% -- which is lower than it is today.

It's a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he's also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of "tax cut."

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Obama doesn't have me fooled and never did since day one. The cost of these promises always hurt the people they say they intend to help. 40% that pay nothing will get more, the rich will take their money elsewhere, and the middle-class will be holding the bag. It's a pity more people don't read the Wall Street Journal, but even if they did and smell of "handout" in the air is enough to destroy reason in most.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

My favorite Obama ad claims that McCain will not cut taxes for middle class families. Then later, he claims that he will cut middle class taxes by three times what McCain will.


0 x 3 = 0

Yeah! I still have mad math skills. :andrew:  

Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yeah! I still have mad math skills.

I r smart! :LOL:

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Yeah! I still have mad math skills.

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Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

I have to say that I am truly impressed with the average American that will be voting for Obama. I just can't seem to figure out how does someone vote for anyone who has so much bad background and who's policies are obviously more dangerous than helpful. The ability to ignore all the bad is mind boggling. It does make me question McCains military background though, I just don't seem to find any hint of a fighter in this man. He seems to be trying to come off as strong and mighty while at the same time saying thinsg like "Obama is not a bad man" with a voice as if talking to 5 year olds. He reminds me of the President from the movie The American President, who does not fight back when his opponent is slinging so much mud at him he could build Mount Everest behind the White House.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

People just don't get it.  They are not looking at the big picture.  They hear they're being promised more money in their pockets and they follow Obama around like a puppy dog.  I noticed the college kids are voting for Obama because he's promising help with their school costs. 

People don't get the fact they may get an extra $1,000 back from taxes and then receive a pink slip from their employer. 

Today's news:  Pepsi Co is cutting 3,300 jobs as profit falls 10 percent. 

This is the wave of the future if we tax the corps.  It's already starting to happen. . 

 

Reply #7 from PolMach Forums Top

Quoting just, reply 2
My favorite Obama ad claims that McCain will not cut taxes for middle class families. Then later, he claims that he will cut middle class taxes by three times what McCain will.




0 x 3 = 0

Yeah! I still have mad math skills.  

You truly are genius. :beer:

 

I emailed this to my mother-in-law. Not that she'll read it..

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

the more i learn about obama's policies, the more i worry about the economic disaster he would cause.

Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top

the more i worry about the economic disaster he would cause.

You mispelled "will" there.

I'm resigned at this point to Obama winning. All I can hope for is that he doesn't tax me out of a job.

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

that is another thing I worry about, I recently opened a home business. I was hopying to eventually grow into something large, but with his tax policies I could be forced back into the rat race...

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Personally, I don't think Obama is evil to be honest. He's just another American running for Preseident. It's just his background and policies are not what I agree with for this country and to see so many people falling so aggressively for him like he is some kind of rockstar/God/only one capable of fixing "everything", it worries me that people can be influenced so easily. I only wish to know is the majority of these Obama fans actually want him to win because they understand what he is for and the policies he plans to implement or do they simply see him as an alternative to what is happening today and expecting to somehow profit from him election?

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Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

Evil? No.

Terrible president? Yes.

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

All I can hope for is that he doesn't tax me out of a job.

Many are sharing that prayer right about now.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting kryo, reply 9

the more i worry about the economic disaster he would cause.

You mispelled "will" there.

I'm resigned at this point to Obama winning. All I can hope for is that he doesn't tax me out of a job.

You're safe. ;)

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

You're safe.

:thumbsup:

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

personally, i support Obama, but im not a die hard liberal who refuses 2 believe that i could b wrong, so im wondering, what is it about Obamas background that is so bad? I mean, after seing McCains flip sides on so many topics & issues during his own campaign, surprising/scaring/insulting so many of his supporters by picking Sarah Palin, allowing her 2 break his promise of running a clean campaign, & whats especially bad, neither he nor Obama have done a damn thing 2 help the economy during this latest crisis, despite the fact that he says that he can fix things, or that Obama cant. R they not still senators? is there some reason they cant write a bill or 2 that might help? so after all that, what is so bad about Obamas background?

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

What is so bad about Obama's background?

Well, if going to a church for 20 years listening to the preachings of a Pastor who thinks the US should be dammed, working, not only as an attorney, and giving money to ACORN and people affiliated to ACORN, having meetings in the livingroom of Ayers while denying to know anything about his background (informationa that was all over the news at the time) and having connections with Rezco including the purchase of his home (to name a few) does not bother you in the least, then I can see why you are asking this question. But if you are actually OK with all of this, makes me wonder about the rest of this country who is in favor of Obama.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

Bush puts a couple of oil companies into the ground for bad management and he is evil, but Obama can be friends (at one point) with an admitted terrorist, a hateful Pastor, a criminal and an agency known for voter fraud election after election and still he is more famous than that chinese guy from American idol.

Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

well honestly i did not kno about ACORN, however as bad as his pastor is/was, atleast he didnt lead a witch hunt in south africa, which is something that whats-his-name (the guy that palin gives credit for helping her early political carrer) admitted to. As for the terrorist, Obama was way too young 2 care about him whenn the bombings took place, & as for as "palling around with..." goes the only connection ive heard about was a breif meeting & something about him giving Obama help during his early political career. & bush is evil cause he lied 2 get the US into an unnecessary war thats costing us billions a month & is partially responsible for the current ecenomic crisis. plus the whole "enhanced interrogtion" thing

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

oh & i would appreciate it if u were to give me some links about ACORN & whatever trouble they were involved in

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

I happen to believe that almost everything about Obama is an illusion.  But I'm not going to suddenly accuse the American people of being stupid.  I've never believed that and I'm not going to adopt that opinion if Obama happens to win.  Collectively, we will vote with what we believe to be the best interests of the country in mind.  That doesn't mean we won't be wrong, just that even groups of smart people make bad decisions sometimes.  There will certainly be a significant percentage of 'less informed' voters but they will come from both parties & probably neutralize each other (barring the margin of victory being less than the number of fraudulent votes, brought to you courtesy of ACORN :rolleyes: ).

Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

Obama was way too young 2 care about him whenn the bombings took place, & as for as "palling around with..." goes the only connection ive heard about was a breif meeting & something about him giving Obama help during his early political career.

Most skinheads weren't alive when Hitler was, I guess they are just a bunch of young rascals. They couldn't possibly be influenced in any way.

& bush is evil cause he lied 2 get the US into an unnecessary war thats costing us billions a month & is partially responsible for the current ecenomic crisis

Yeah, it's amazing how he forged those UN resolutions, then made Saddam break them. Ol George really trick us huh? And the WMD's were just icing on the cake, seeing how that wasn't even needed to enforce the broken UN resolutions.

plus the whole "enhanced interrogtion" thing

Yeah, it's a gawd awful business keeping geniuses such as yourself from being attacked, that bastard Bush. Maybe we should give those poor fellas locked up in Cuba a new rifle and some of that Obama handout money, give them a big kiss on the ass, and send them back to the battlefield. My eyes are watering up for them now. :'(

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

well ive had some time to read about the ACORN thing, & honestly it sounds like the republicans were using the incedent to hurt Obama & ACORN itself, so far i dont see how what happened in Nevada could b in anyway a negative for Obama. Sure he worked for them in Chicago, nearly 20 yrs ago & as a lawyer in Illinois 5 yrs later. but other than that, idk how ACORN has anything to do w/ the current campaign. & for the record, based on what ive read, ACORN itself was not responsible for the falsification of those forms & in reality flagged them as "suspiscous" or "fradulent" & was not actually going 2 caount them unless they were actually correct & the person in question brought ID to the polls.

Link: http://www.lvrj.com/news/30613864.html

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Nitro, reply 22


Most skinheads weren't alive when Hitler was, I guess they are just a bunch of young rascals. They couldn't possibly be influenced in any way.

the difference between hitler & that terrorist is that hitler has something to b proud of. yes i said it. hitler was a better leader than most ppl that have ever been in a place of power. the sad part is he went insane & nobody shot him b4 he screwed things up more. Hitler brought a nation that was on the brink of anarchy to a power that nearly conquered the world. what did Ayers do? he blew up some buildings & took credit for it. So what? thats nothing special.


Quoting Nitro, reply 22


Yeah, it's amazing how he forged those UN resolutions, then made Saddam break them. Ol George really trick us huh? And the WMD's were just icing on the cake, seeing how that wasn't even needed to enforce the broken UN resolutions.

actually i remember Bush saying we were going after said WMDs that i dont recall us ever finding. Either that or it was to catch those pesky terrorist who were hiding in Afghanistan. and as far as enforcing UN resolutions go, how many other nations r part of the UN? quite a few i would imagine. so how come we had to take the lead on enforcement during a time when we should have been focusing all of our military strength on finding & killing Osama bin Laden? & of all ppl to kill, why Saddam? why the only person to keep Iraq from civil war? (which btw happened thx to Bush)

Quoting Nitro, reply 22


Yeah, it's a gawd awful business keeping geniuses such as yourself from being attacked, that bastard Bush. Maybe we should give those poor fellas locked up in Cuba a new rifle and some of that Obama handout money, give them a big kiss on the ass, and send them back to the battlefield. My eyes are watering up for them now.

 

i find it funny how u would so readily lock up ordinary civilians who may or may not have anything to do w/ attacking the US, but find it in ur heart to shed a tear for 60+ yr old soldiers who led a successful revolution against a corrupt government. aside from that, werent some of those resolutions against human rights violations? which occur quite often during "enhanced interrogations"?