65 mpg car I can't buy?

Just curious, where do they sell it? Europe?

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Thats so Fu**ing stupid. Honestly I Live here in America. For all you Europeans I love my country but I do agree we are soooooo arogant to the world. Why wouldent they sell this thing in America. Even with its Problems They should sell it anyways. Imagine if everyone stopped and bought one..... This dirves me mad! I just bought a mercury mariner hybrid car 45 mpg. I get it in 10 days . WE NEED FUEL EFFICIENCY.

It's quite a damn nice looking car for a little econobox too.

I imagine it's too light to work on American roads though.

IT costs a lot to do crash testing and make the car safe enough for the USA since people in the USA don't know how to drive and the people who drive big trucks and semi trucks know even less of how to drive than adverage and crash into all the little cars.

We're getting the volt here but the European one seems better.. more room since it's a hatchback.

Econoboxes suck.

The Tesla Roadster rocks.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

It's priced like a Ferrari, goes from 0 to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds, and it's available in the USA. And oh, yeah, did I mention it gets the equivalent of 100 or more mpg? Take that, stupid econoboxes!!

I'm personally driving a Honda Civic. I average about 33 mpg, but I've hit 40+ on occasion. I don't own it, though. When I do finally buy my own vehicle, it's likely to be a Ford Focus (that 35 mg one) or one of Chevrolet's "Fuel Solutions" vehicles if they're in production by the time I'm ready to buy a new car. I like for high MPG, but I also like to support companies located in the USA.

I'd much prefer to keep the economy and throw away the box. I don't want to make a statement (and if I do, I want it to be "eat my dust"), I just want better mileage. Don't make me drive an ugly car just because I want a fuel efficient one.

Yeah, the Tesla Roadster does indeed rock.

I might add that it's approprately named too - Nikola Tesla did work almost exclusively with electricity.  He and Thomas Edison were almost equally famous (they both lived during the same time), but of course, people only remember one of them.

No offense but aren 't you supposed to post this on some car website?

We can not get the milage the euro cars get.  Its just not possible unless you did away with a lot of the epa stuff that is required. 

Get a grip!

To import a car from the US to the UK costs about an extra $20,000 to bring it up to UK safety standards. And that's before you decide you want to move the steering wheel to the other side.

I am talking about the gas milage of a euro car vs the us cars.  The emmisions laws we have (as well as the fact we use mostly gas rather then desiel for our cars) mean we can never get the same gas milage as the euro car.  I know of some decent size vans in german for example that get something like 30 miles+ on the highway.

And then the tiny cars.  How much does the "smart" car get for milage in the us?  I know its a lot more over in europe.

Assuming we stick to gasoline.

This will all change with the new bill to get electric cars on the road. Read about the bailout and it's tag on for electric cars. Also the Telsa is a huge step backwards. In the 90s they had SUVs that went further than that per charge.

Edit : Also cars in Europe are more efficient due to the fact they don't buy SUVs and other stupidly large cars.

Diesel. Seriously. Thats the answer. Until we run out of oil.

VAT is the largest cost addition to American car imports.  The average for safety upgrades is like 500 pounds.  I suppose you get your news from the BBC?

Diesel engines do not need diesel to run. The reason they starting using the fuel we call diesel in these engines was because it was a waste product of gas.  So they found a good use for it. Now a days its used so much its in very high demand.  We need to invest in the other kinds of fuels that work in a diesel.

Put yes diesel is a good answer.

I don't have the passanger size down, but I do know over in europe they have some say 12 passanger vans that are deisel and they get fairly decent milage for a veichel that size.  Even the SUVs can get decent milage, but require money put into them in order to get it.  With enoght money invested in after market parts an v-6 explorer (2 wheel drive) can get over 30mpg.  The tec is there but there are to many restrictions to be able to do if from the factory.

Now with 4 wheel drive its not going to be as high but still a decent gain.  With the v8 (depending on which year) you could get around the same milage and in some cases better milage.  Not so much highway or city, but on back roads with a lot of hills the 8 really does help out.

I picked the explore since its a mid sized suv.  Once you get bigger then that, well I don't see milage improving to much.  The smaller suvs, such as the ford escape can really have their milage improved. 

Now what they need to do is get them some deisels and I bet that would really help out SUVS. 

What really sucked about about the SUV (besides the obvious) is nobody invested the effort into fuel economy. There was alot of stigma with SUVS as status symbols. They were luxury sedans made to tame the wilds of the suburban parking lot. If there was a clean deisel HUMMER introduced years ago, or models with respectable milage for thier size they probably wouldn't be on the brink of extiction now.

Sure we have them now but people are fleeing them like fleas from a flaming cat.

Oil is dropping on the market like crazy, but you won't find me running back to any vehicle getting less then 25+ mpg. And like some cruel cosmic hand bitch-slapping USA auto makers, they can't afford to make or sell fuel efficient models in thier own country of origin.

What really gets me is people spend so much money on them, then fuel goes up so they sell them to cut down on the cost of fuel.  But then end up loosing a lot of money when the sale it.  Fuel prices drop a doller and then the suvs pop up again.

There is nothing wrong with owning an SUV if its something you put to work.  Say maybe your some one that tows a lot, maybe likes having 4 wheel drive option in the winter, however would rather have a few extra seats over a bed.  Okay I can understand that.  What I don't get is people go out and buy the biggest SUV (may or may not have 4 wheel drive) think its sports car, and then turn around and complain that they get bad milage.  Or better  yet complain the man told them it would get 20 but they only get 12......

I can say this now is the time to buy SUVs and Pickups since everyone is trying to get rid of the trade ins you can get some good deals.  But I would not bother unless its something your going to use.

Uhh... the entire purpose of the SUV class of vehicle is to circumvent fuel efficency standards. Prior to the fuel standard legislation of the late 80s, everyone drove vans, minivans, and station wagons. Car manufacturers weren't willing to make more efficient engines, so they started selling reworked light trucks as passenger vehicles under the name SUV - the law left a specific exception to the fuel standard law for sport and utility vehicles. This was intended so that a Winebago didn't have to meet the same standard as a passenger van, but car manufacturers jumped at the loophole.

I got an old Mitsubishi montereo V6 SUV and its more truck then any other suv and some trucks.

So if the SUVS can get around this standard then how is it they get the same gas milage as the the passanger vans when they are in a lot of cases more powerful and heavier?  Its one of those things I have been trying to understand.  How something as big as the suburban can get the same milage as smaller passanger van.

A lot of that is market forces, belive it or not. Most people simply won't buy vehicles that get the milage that used to be the norm. The engine technology is available, but only in the past 5 years or so has it been cost effective to actually use it. People are willing to pay an extra $1000 or more to get a vehicle that gets double the gas milage. Also, emissions standards are important - the less fuel you're buring, the less your exhaust system has to handle. Basically, there is a balance point where fuel costs will meet increased cost of the unit (more expensive components, tighter tolerences, etc) - and current fuel prices are shifting that balance.

The thing to understand is, market forces would likely have changed fuel standards on their own - the government was simply trying to speed the process.

People are also willing to spend a boat load more to get better fuel milage, even loose a considerible amout of money on a trade in.  Not knowing by the time their gas milage saving pays it self off the car is likly to be replaced. 

About emmisions standards.  They are very good to have but it only reduces emmisions it does not mean it burns more fuel.  Infact all the emmisions stuff we have increases the amout of fuel the engine burns to get to the same rpm.  They need to work on the emmisions control devices we have.