I love ya, Kitty. You are an excellent skinner and a wonderful person. Keep your chin up!

Xiandi sends huggles to Kitty

I have yet to meet ANYONE who actually likes clowns....;)

Don't know you Panndora but I know what you're going through! Out of all the universe, YOU are God's prize creation! You were designed for ETERNITY (in God's image). God wants YOU with HIM in heaven. The Devil blew it and has already lost - Hell was designed for him and he wants to take you (and as many of us as he can) with him. See, this life is a battle for your soul and it ain't no joke! It can get real rough!



Sorry, I know your just trying to help, but this doesn't fit in with what the Bible says. Doesn't sound very comforting either! "My life sucks! Wow, God must really love me"! None of us DESERVE God's love or attention - "for all have fallen short of the glory of God" - He gives His love and attention freely. Also, God doesn't neglect anyone. He is just not going to force himself into our lives! He wants to be ASKED in!

Bottom line, Panndora: "Resist the devil and he will flee from you". That's God's word - it's for real! Tell him to take his depression and fear and abandonment and GET OUT in the name of Jesus Christ! Ge mad! My advice to you is get any negative, nasty, dark stuff out of your life! You need some good old JOY! I used to listen to nasty music all the time, had nasty habits, nasty language... that stuff eats away at your soul. Over the years God has salvaged my life and brought me JOY UNSPEAKABLE!

Just know you have God on your side, waiting to be asked into your heart! You obviously have lots of friends and admirers here that care about you! That should cheer you up! If this journey of life isn't taking you in the right direction, maybe it's time for a detour through the Word of God! Hey that's not bad... just thought that up myself!

God loves you! :CONGRAT:

Kitty, Life has it's ups and downs, highs and lows. Cling to the ups and remember the highs. There is always light on the other side of the tunnel, and all things happen for a reason. You were put on this earth to do great things.....many of which you have done....and many of which you have yet to do. We all luv you here and are here for you in any way possible. Besides...what would WC be without our Kitty Malone!!..geeze..then we'd have to listen to Zu all the time!

As you can tell from the others stories you are not alone with your battle, I also struggle with depression, I had thought of ending it several times, but each time I sought help, just like you are doing (not the exact same way, I choose shrinks ;p ). PM me so we can talk I don't do IM but I can if that would be better, some of the things I'd like to talk to you about I don't want to post for all to see, being a retired counselor privicy is most important. Please try  :CONGRAT: 


Kitty sounds much nicer than your new name so if you don't mind I'd like to refer to you by Kitty (only because I don't know your real first name). You are a very gifted artist with so, so much to live for: your daughter needs you, as I'm sure your friends and family do also. One of the things I had to do was tell my demons to go to hell w/o me   ,that I would no longer go down that road. I believe in a heavan and hell, and when I die I just might wind up in hell but not while in my physcial state.  :CONGRAT: 
I could loan you my cat for a few days, trust me she will get you to completely forget your depression   , it can be a painful  :SURPRISED: but not as painful as being bummed out. 

Please pm me so we can talk  :CONGRAT:  

Yeah, me too....an ill wind blew a dark cloud of depression over me a few weeks back.. which has hung over me ever since cos I've not had the strength to muster up enough wind to blow it away again. Obviously I need more curried cabbage! Now that'd cheer me up.. a plateful of curried cabbage, a honeyed chicken breast, honeyed carrots and mashed potato with sour cream.

Oh well, at least the dark cloud is providing me with some shade from the Qld winter sun... you know, barely warm one day, Anna Bligh the next....

Nevermind, summer's just around the corner... you know, steenkin' hot one day, Jennifer Hawkins the next. Yup, global warming has a lot to answer for... tho I could use a lil bit of it around here right about now... the box of tissues I soaked last night just ain't drying in the cooler weather. Yup, I'm finding myself bawling for no apparent reason just lately, like especially last night while watching TV... but then again, televised parliament is enough to make anyone cry uncontrollably. :SNIFF!: ;p

But yeah, roll on summer... I don't get depressed so bad when there's a few more hours of sunshine and daylight... not so gloomy and makes getting out in the yard more pleasant. Not only that, I can get outside to howl at the full moon cos it's not so cold out. Nope, baying at the moon atop a fence post with those Winter Westerlies blowing up my nightie ain't so nice and don't do me arthritis any good. ;p

Seriously, though, I really hope that you can beat it and can get back to a normal life (normal, normal...what's Normal? starkers wouldn't know normal. ;p ) real soon... so try to smile and take good care of yourself, OK.

Kitty, keep in mind that misery loves company. Look for the end of the tunnel in what people say, don't let yourself get blanketed by the comfort of everyones misery.

Kitty if i could hug you right now I would...I love you and think you are outstanding. Silence the voices.

Yep!! So where the hell is everybody... I buy bags and bags of pretzels for everyone to cry in at my misery party, and nobody turns up!! :SURPRISED: ;p

Oh well, I'll drown my own sorrows with a cup of Tetleys... anyone know if pretzels dunk orright? :LOL:

Nothing else has to be said...only view the link hehe>>>

CLICK ME!!!

It's not the pretzels....   

That was a wonderful thing you did there mdchalice  :CONGRAT: 

Here's a piece of genuine advice from someone who has been there, and has been there recently. I've spent most of my life with ups and downs, there are times I've been happy for months, and times that I've been sad for months. It's like a dark cloud some times, but I'm working through it... and here's what's working for me.

about a month ago I got screwed up drunk (this wasn't the answer.. lol). and when I woke up feeling hungover I started thinking about my life, and my demons (alcohol being one of them) and I started to form a plan. Step one was to get off the alcohol, step two was to think things out, and step three was to find something to do that seemed almost impossible, but easily plausible if I just worked at it. My big task came to me that morning like a bolt of lightning.

I noticed a track and field magazine with upcoming events in it, I can't run at all, so that was no help. I looked through it, pondering what I could do, and then I found something for me. I've always been a fairly above average swimmer, I was even captain of the swim team in high school, but I've done nothing to enhance my abilities since then. But when I saw this Aquathlon even it was like it called to me. I spent the whole month training for it, knowing that I could easily fail if I didn't push myself. I set goals for everyday, and every week. I barely made them, but with every one I made my confidence level grew. And the workouts gave me time to think. While I was swimming I was working out the issues in my head, and dealing with them. All the while using the focus given by my demons as a fuel source. My demons may not be gone, but I've used them to my advantage in this case. My event came and went, and I feel like I'm more than I was before that night that I got stupidly drunk.

I still feel the pull of depression well into this month, and even last month while I was training I felt it, but I won't fall into the pit again as long as I keep setting goals for myself, making one of them to do whatever it takes to be happy...

so the real trick is to prove to yourself that you are better than your sadness, and to keep yourself busy in a way that helps you work through your demons, and maybe even use them to your advantage. I know you are a strong person, and i can tell you can do this. You need to set a goal, and stick to you choice. I'm not saying it needs to be anything athletic, or anything specific, but do something you would otherwise do. Change your destiny by understanding your emotions, and change them by doing something "metaphorically big." is there anything you've ever enjoyed in life, that you may want to try to do again? or something just out of reach that you know if you only try you can do? From my standpoint I say do it. and then do something else... my next swim is in Sept. and I won't let my depression stop me from doing it.

I think those are really nice,just hope she even see's it and maybe new to her

Kitty

I come across those issues many times in the work I do, which whilst business related, is driven by how individuals approach life and how they deal with those issues. Here are three great videos on this, link below, watch in the order shown - only a few minutes each.

Go to : "Think about it" Videos

First got to "Nature of Success" at the bottom of the page.
Second go to "Power of Attitude" in the middle of the page.
Last go to: "Welcome the Rain" at the top of the page.

One contains my favourite quote:
"Its not the things you get, but the hearts you touch, that will determine your success in life"

Worth watching each one a few times, the more you do, the more it will make sense. If nothing else the music is catchy, and there are some stunning photos in there - enough to brighten anyones day!

Regards
Zy

* tosses Kitty a slice of his pizza** 

Felt it was a time to share the love

very cool Zubaz...   

being able to find/recover things that you misplace or accidently leave behind

finding lucky pennies, or lost money

making wishes on the first evening star

remembering good dreams

playing with warm, melted candle wax between the fingers

watching a person sleep

rewatching the videos that you created from a video camera

listening to drunk voicemail messages

LAST BY NOT LEAST; music….....no explanation needed for music!!!

Big hugs, friends (even new ones)in cyber-space that have been there at one time or another!!

  

Whatcha mean, NT?....



What you insinuating here? That I don't throw a good misery party????

I'll have you know that I throw the best misery parties there has ever been! Not only is there pretzels and boxes of tissues in abundant supply, I get in lots of sad movies on DVD, a politician or two to give speeches.... and all 'house' music is the blues.

Orright, theres no booze on hand, just Tetleys and scones with jam and cream... but nobody, I mean NOBODY leaves my misery parties with a dry eye... cos if none of the above work, patrons with dry eyes are locked in a room with Tiny Tim's rendition of 'Tiptoe Thru The Tulips' until they're sobbing appropriately. :LOL:

Seriously, tho, when I'm feeling a bit depressed I turn to comedy. I mean, why have serious thoughts that can turn ugly when you can turn to the sublime and ridiculous... anything absurd, ludicrous and totally wacky to get a laugh/bring a smile to your face.

Yep, that's right, when I'm feeling low - questioning the meaning of life/why am I here - I turn to Monty Python: "The Life of Brian" and "The Meaning of Life" for answers.... and they're all there, too....

"Always look on the bright side of life... de-do, de-do, de-do...." ;p

Panny, Ever since I first heard your sweet voice on the Skincast, I knew you were a special person. Just thinking of you brightens my day! I have enjoyed each and every one of the PMs and emails from you. All the huggles in the world can't replace your presence in my world. You have given a lot to the skinning community because you have a special kind of heart, the kind that fills the air with the warmth of the sun with just the sound of your voice! So, when you feel a little down, just remember.... You are my sunshine! Luvs and huggles....xxx.

I'm going to get hammered for typing this, but who cares...

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with string
These are a few of my favourite things!

Cream colored ponies and crisp apple strudels
Doorbells and slay bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild gees that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favourite things!

Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eye lashes
Silver white winters that melt into spring
These are a few of my favourite things!

When the dog bites, when the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad, I simply remember
my favourite things!
and then I don't feel so bad!

Kitty, I know you are a beautiful warm loving person. You have been blessed with a talent that knows no bounds.(On many levels) You have been given the gift of being a mother to a beautiful child who loves you dearly. Think of her bright shining face when she smiles at you. Try to hold that picture in your mind...you can't help but smile and feel warm fuzzies all over. Remember you are loved!!! Hugs and Kisses just for you.

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Now that made me feel good!!!

Thanks guys, but ive decided to give up the forums for good, too much stress for me mentally, too many bitch fights going on with an unknown person, and well, if i continue the way i am going, ill deffinatley head for another breakdown. The forums might be good for some, but for me its nothing but a day to day battle, you guys dont have to say anything.....its all good.

I do try my best to help people and participate in community suits and such, but mentally, it really really drains me, and most times i do slump into depressive states, most times i will put on a facade to cover my darkness...... So I guess you wont be seeing me around anymore. A true heartfelt thanks to those who have said kind things and tried to lift me up, but im just mentally spent... :NOTSURE: 

im not sure if ill still make skins.....dunno yet......


please no hard feelings from this end.....its all good....i promise.


....if anyone ever does deside to do a tribute for me one day..PLEASE make sure its scary, gothik, nuts, kooky and just insane........lol thats how i luv it.

xx pandy (kitty)

Well Kitty...all I can say is you gotta do what you feel is best for you. I'd hate to see you not create skins anymore because we need to have skins that are out of the norm. And seriously...don't let anyone's inflated ego get to you or this unknown person. Nobody here is special...unless of course they ride the special bus and lick the windows. This site is for anyone that wants to create...and you've created some nice stuff...regardless of what anyone else says...and I think a lot of people would like to see you continue doing that.

" l'amitié est la seule chose qui grandit quand on la partage"
not sure about translation but I try anyway :

friendship is the only thing which grows when You share it.

U have a lot of friends here, who like your talent and originality.

keep skins coming ! :CONGRAT:

We still would like it if you visit us on IRC Kitty. Very little bitch fighting there.