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DIABLO 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIABLO 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

Finally! Yes!
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Reply #51 Top
This will be, by design, released within 6 months of SC2 and SOASE Expansion.

GG the rest of my life.
Reply #52 Top
I like Blizzard, and think its neat that they're revisiting their old games. I might try this for I had fun playing the previous Diablos. I do agree, it would be nice to see Blizzard give us something new. Maybe a Turn-Base-Strategy game perhaps?

As for people complaining about Blizzard fanboys, you have that problem with almost any game company. Take Relic for example. That's got a large fanbase as well and has fanboys to go with it. Creative Assembly and their fanbase with the Total War series also sports the same thing. Does this becoming annoying and turn you off a little? Yes. Does it mean that the games they've made are bad? No.

Everyone has their views on makes a great game. I like Starcraft, and enjoy it still today. Do I spend my time getting really into it? No. Do I think its a great game? Yes. But I think Sim City and Descent are great games too, which people will disagree on.

Still Blizzard getting, what is it, over 8 million subscribers for WoW? No matter how you slice it, that IS impressive. Must be doing something right. ;) 
Reply #53 Top
That is the exact description of a Blizzard fanboy. Just look at all the stupid conventions they hold, which the main purpose is to glorify themselves. People dress up like idiots, and pratically memorize obscure Blizzard stuff. That is the definition of a fanboy.


Definitions are subjective. You are using a negative connotation of 'fanboy' rather than the positive connotation of 'fanboy', which is where my disagreement comes in. To state it plainly, "You're trolling." I remember you having a couple of anti-Blizzard threads around here, so feel free to state on-topic comments in those threads rather than taking this one off-topic.

Blizzard games most certainly do build up on hype. Look at Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. More hype than you can possibly imagine. I'm betting that these games will be disappointment, and that Blizzard will fade away.


You're ignoring the root of it, which is that Blizzard's "hype" would have nothing to build upon if it didn't already have a strong and successful base built of quality games. Even if a person doesn't like the genre, they have to admit to the quality of it, unless they're being thick-headed.

Another reason that Blizzard games are stupid is that they refuse to try anything new. They claim that is "disrupts" the "feel" of the game.


Can I get a source for that "claim" other than twisted opinion? Blizzard does new things with all of their games, and what is implemented is what has proven to be successful.

Since Blizzard won't change anything, people are eventually going to say, "Okay I'm sick of these games being copies of each other with so-called 'better' graphics, so I'm gonna play something else."


As I said earlier, look at the number of games that Blizzard has put out within the timeframe of its existence. It's become what it is due to solid development of quality games that appeal to people. This isn't a company that throws out rehash after rehash every consecutive year. Also, if your main criticism against Blizzard is the graphics, keep in mind their year of release. Besides that, graphics are eye-candy, but they don't make an game into a superb or excellent game. They can enhance what is already a good game.

Companies need to try something new, or the game will probably not be as popular. Look at the old Rollercoaster Tycoon games. RCT2 was a big disappointment because it was exactly like RCT1 will no major changes, which is the same scenario as Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. But then, major changes were made to RCT3, and it was a major hit. Bottom line, new ideas are good.


I don't see how you're comparing the gameplay and "story experience" of a rollercoaster simulation game and its subsequent changes with that of Starcraft and its eventual sequel.

Although I had the free-time to respond to this, I regret having spent it feeding a troll. So do use these comments as food-for-thought, meaning "think about it", rather than claiming that your opinion about Blizzard is the truth while everyone who likes Blizzard games are just blind to their horrible graphics and craptacular gameplay that just happens to get crappier and crappier with each iteration, yet they still somehow manage to be immensely successful with their "garbage" releases.
Reply #54 Top
Any time anyone starts talking to me about the "power" of hype a little part of me dies on the inside. What is sad isn't that the companies "hype up" a game, but that customers pay any attention to it.

Honestly, it's like that McDonald's commercial with a bunch of gansta, rapping jackasses running around with burgers in their mouths. Do people SERIOUSLY look at this stuff and say to themselves "HEY, that's totally me! This company GETS me, I should buy their products!" Does this really happen? Are we that vulnerable to media influence? That's pathetic.

If you like a style of game, who cares what anyone has to say to it? People liked Black and White, I couldn't stand it. People told me Warcraft III was the King of RTS, I thought it was a joke. To this DAY I am still the only person I know who has played Shogun: Total War. People need to make their own decisions and stop trying to influence others one way or the other, games are subjective.

Will I buy Diablo III? Probably, I enjoyed the first two versions of it and am willing to make a bet of 50 bucks that I will enjoy the third. Does this mean I am "betraying" so called "traditional" RPG's (itself up for interpretation)? Hardly, I simply enjoy repeating things that bring me pleasure.

Games don't progress in either direction, shallow or deep, quality or junk, good or bad, they're just different, sometimes marginally so, but hey guess what if something about the game is different then, to quote a certain show, WELL THEN ITS !@#$ING DIFFERENT!

Some "bad" games are enjoyed, some "good" games are hated. In the end, why don't you guys just play a game that makes you happy?



I think I lost track of what I intended to say in this post...

Reply #55 Top
Can I get a source for that "claim" other than twisted opinion? Blizzard does new things with all of their games, and what is implemented is what has proven to be successful.


No. In the Starcraft II article in PC Gamer, Blizzard said they won't make any changes, so they can preserve the "Starcraft feel", which in my opinion is a bunch of bullshit.

This isn't a company that throws out rehash after rehash every consecutive year.


People have gotten played Starcraft II at those stupid Blizzard Conventions. They say it is exactly the same as Starcraft, with no changes. They sure don't make games every year, but they delay and delay the games they do make for no reason, and they still have horrible graphics and no big changes. And they say that they are the best gaming company. What stuck up idots... :( 
Reply #56 Top
People have gotten played Starcraft II at those stupid Blizzard Conventions. They say it is exactly the same as Starcraft, with no changes. They sure don't make games every year, but they delay and delay the games they do make for no reason, and they still have horrible graphics and no big changes. And they say that they are the best gaming company. What stuck up idots...


Some units have new abilities.
Some units have have been completely dropped from the game.
Some units have been recreated. Renamed, new abilities, different look. Close to their counterparts.

Don't give me this crap that its exactly the same game.
As for graphics, lets take Gal Civ 2 in example. I love how everything looks in the game, but once the game has advanced past the first 20 turns, I use only icons, because it is easier to see as well easier to manage an empire. Graphics only serve as a plus, game play is critical.

As for delaying games by Blizzard. I have NEVER once seen a crash or even a gameplay issue that has made the game unplayable. The come out as solid games.
Reply #57 Top
Can I get a source for that "claim" other than twisted opinion? Blizzard does new things with all of their games, and what is implemented is what has proven to be successful.No.


Incorrect. Watch the Terran Gameplay Example from Starcraft 2 website below:

WWW Link

In the video you'll see they've added a range circle for the Siege Tank in Siege Mode. Did away with 12 unit max selection. Added a rally-point so that workers will gather resources after creation instead of just moving there. Made Add-Ons more important and a bunch of other features. So there's your source.

In the Starcraft II article in PC Gamer, Blizzard said they won't make any changes, so they can preserve the "Starcraft feel", which in my opinion is a bunch of bullshit.


Why wouldn't they? Its a sequel to Starcraft, its done by the same company, the original was successful. Why drastically change that?

This isn't a company that throws out rehash after rehash every consecutive year.People have gotten played Starcraft II at those stupid Blizzard Conventions. They say it is exactly the same as Starcraft, with no changes. They sure don't make games every year, but they delay and delay the games they do make for no reason, and they still have horrible graphics and no big changes. And they say that they are the best gaming company. What stuck up idots...  


So let me get this staight...

If a company delays its games, despite saying repeatedly that the game will be done when it gets done and they've set no release date makes it bad? Look at how many delays Stardock games have gone through. Twilight of Arnor alone had gone over 4-5 months delay before it was ready and THAT had a release date (Stardock though was kind enough to ask if we wanted it than or later). Blizzard didn't set out a release date or mention one. How you can its delayed when there's no set deadline?

I don't think they're the best gaming company, but they're up there because they deliver solid games, naturally disagreeable. But let's look here, the Original Starcraft had bad graphics back when it was released. 2D Graphics when games like Warcraft were getting 3D? Unheard of, but guess what? It worked. Why? Because the gameplay was solid. Galalitic civilizations II didn't have the best graphics to date, and guess what? Its still good because of solid gameplay. Heck, you can play strictly with icons for crying out loud.

If you don't like Starcraft fine. If you don't like Blizzard fine. But next time, I recommend you back-up your stuff with some reason.

Reply #59 Top
No. In the Starcraft II article in PC Gamer, Blizzard said they won't make any changes, so they can preserve the "Starcraft feel", which in my opinion is a bunch of bullshit.


I doubt that you're paraphrasing that correctly. I've followed Blizzard's statements about SC2, and they never say that they won't make changes. They do say that they want to keep the feel of the original Starcraft though, which makes sense since they ARE making a sequel to Starcraft. If it was an entirely new game franchise that they were working on, then it would be understandable that it wouldn't play like Starcraft, but since this IS a sequel, it would NOT make sense for them to totally change the formula of Starcraft just to try and achieve some novel effect.


Incorrect. Watch the Terran Gameplay Example from Starcraft 2 website below:

WWW Link

In the video you'll see they've added a range circle for the Siege Tank in Siege Mode. Did away with 12 unit max selection. Added a rally-point so that workers will gather resources after creation instead of just moving there. Made Add-Ons more important and a bunch of other features. So there's your source.


I assume that you're replying to him even though what you quoted had more of my comments than his.

Here comes more pointless arguing about games that don't even exist yet...


It's not pointless, but you know what they say...
Reply #60 Top
Seems to be some bitter, old people here who can't handle action and want everything to be turnbased....Lucky for me it's a fastpaced future :)

You can quote & sig me on this as much as you want, but my opinion is that Blizzard is the masters of gamedesign. They're the best gamedevelopers I've ever seen and all their games since Diablo have superb quality.

And about this "Diablo is not a real RPG!!!" bull that the slowheads* keep screaming....

Baldurs Gate is an RPG of the "RealTime with Pause with main focus on characterskill" AFAIK.
Diablo is a "RealTime RPG with focus on playerskill".

GalCiv 2 is a strategygame in the TurnBased tree*.
StarCraft is a strategygame in the Realtime tree.

I've tried both Baldurs Gate 2 and IceWind Dale 1 & 2 and I didn't get anywhere in them. Didn't really knew what the pause function did but all characters just rushed forward when an enemy came in range and the Barbarian or Warrior usually died :/
If I only could control things like in an ActionRPG like Diablo, Titan Quest or Sacred then I would have won easily....

I've played KoTOR and like it (never got from the Jedi planet since the harddrive broke but I'm gonna continue with it soon) but the characterskill focus makes it so random....I can strafe and run and hide and everything but for hitting the baddies only Dex and Wisdom help....I thought the TBS fans liked that system since it focuses on characterskill.

*Slowheads are what I call people who like turnbased but talk crap about Realtime.
*Tree. I don't know what "small part of tree" is called in english. The little treething that's connected to the smaller treething with leaves on.


Almost forgot to say what I think about Diablo 3....well, internet arguing is serious business :HOT:

I think it looks absolutely fantastic. Random adventures is fantastic and that characters will always get something for their class will cut down on all the boss runs you need to do to get good stuff. About time that got incorporated.
But right now I'm most impressed with the cool effects of the Barbarians attacks. Those were grand :HOT:
Reply #61 Top
Blizzard is just lucky that they managed to get high reviews. Diablo isn't even fun, it's just stupid and repetitive. I sometimes wish Blizzard would go to hell; they're the most stuck up developer I've ever heard of.
Reply #62 Top
*Sigh*

[Comment removed after thinking to not waste my time.]
Reply #63 Top
Blizzard is just lucky that they managed to get high reviews. Diablo isn't even fun, it's just stupid and repetitive.


Opinion and fact are not the same thing.
Reply #64 Top
Opinion and fact are not the same thing.


Is is just me, or is that a random comment? It sure seems like one... :p 
Reply #65 Top
When you get high reviews, high sales and a rabid fanbase that continues to play your games for more than 10 years there is more than just smoke, there's fire. Check the Diablo II ladder or Starcraft tournaments if you don't think that many people aren't still playing those games 10 years later. Those people aren't still playing those games because they were tricked by clever marketing hype. It seems that for whatever reason you don't appreciate what Blizzard has done in the past and what they have meant for many in PC gaming since the mid 90s.

Well, they can't please everyone. But are they only hype? The assertion is patently ridiculous.

~ Wyndstar