Movie Review- Expelled

I'm debating on whether I'm going to see it or not.  There are one of two reactions that I forsee myself having.

1. Hysterically laughing at the absurdity.

2. Spewing forth obscenities in a violent rage.

~Zoo

... that was a review? C'mon Era, you can do better than that. Tell us about the movie. What did you like about it? What did you hate about it? Why? What kind of person would want to see this movie? Should I watch it if I enjoy horror flicks?

I wanted to get you to watch it with low amounts of detail. Oh well. I loved pretty much everything about it, didn't really hate anything. It's all good. I'd recommend it to anyone, but it's not terribly scary. It does talk about the Holocaust, though.

Its much more serious than it paints itself.

My son went to see it tonight as well.  He's supposed to call me with the details.  I'm hoping to go soon myself.

I'm wondering how long this will be out?  I'm thinking it won't be out long but I guess it depends on the attendance. 

 

 

The attendance was pretty crummy, I hate to admit. Maybe 14 people in the theater.

I have yet to see this advertised but I have seen other movies recently like "Maid of Honor" and some other one about a surrogate mother numerous times....I keep waiting to see them advertise "Expelled" and am still waiting.

If this is the case, then it might be better all around  that  you wait and view it on video in the comfort of your living room....;)

 

 

Jythier's right....give us some details.........please.

No, that would be far better to do in the theatre, to the chagrin of all the silly people who are taking it seriously.

One need only listen to the interview with Scientific American to be embarrassed by the film altogether.

From what my son told me by watching and reading the reviews it depends on which side of the fence you're on.

This move has been given A+ ratings and F+ ratings and it's pretty predictable which side is saying what.

The point is....is this the truth Stein is speaking or not? Is there any substance to what he's speaking or not? Are Scientists losing tenure or losing jobs because they are Christians? Are they being refused their spot of being able to write in the scientific journals simply because they are Christian? Are they being advised to keep their belief in God a secret because they are Scientists?

The answer to all of these questions is yes...no matter if you like the movie or not. So for all you closed minded people out there, find a Christian who is also a Scientist and ask them yourself. Although it may be hard, because most of them are hiding out in the now empty closets (vacated by another group) all across the country.

I mean com'on you say you like the truth don't you? Or do you? Then just see it for yourself and see if there is any substance to what he's saying before you trash the movie.

I'm certainly not going to pay money to see it.

Maybe, maybe, if a copy gets leaked on the internet, I might download it.

But after hearing the producer admit to outright obfuscation of facts and the hyperbolic statements that the film is supposedly full of (not to mention complete misrepresentation of court cases and at least 3 'facts' in the film that Scientific American proved false in less than an hour's time), I'm certainly not giving Mr. Stein a penny of my hard-earned dinero.

That's too bad SC because you pretend to be so open minded. Did you NOT know that Ben Stein is NOT a Christian? He's a non-practicing Jew so if anyone should be unbiased, he would certainly be a possiblity wouldn't he?

Tell me this......where did you hear the producer admit to outright obfuscation of facts and hyperbole?

Keep in mind, I'm not an ID person. As you know, I'm a young earth creationist believer. So there's a diff in my belief and this one but I do plan on seeing the movie because I know for a fact, that what he's saying about these scientists losing their jobs and being discriminated against is very true.

I just told you. On a podcast with Scientific American. It's like over an hour long of them talking to him. Here's the first part, and it links to the other eight. It's long, but it's worth the listen.

I couldn't care less whether or not Ben Stein is a Christian, Jew, Zoroastrian, or Pastafarian. I do, however, care about the deliberate manipulation of facts, which is what his film is, and why I won't pay money to see it.

I won't support something I don't agree with ethically, so I won't pay for an entrance to a movie filled with half-truths, hyperbole and obfuscation in the name of pushing an agenda.

Would you go see a movie about evolution if these same accusations could be leveled against it as easily? Or, even better, did you pay to go see 'An Inconvenient Truth'?

I think not.

I listened to that interview as well. Wasn't surprised in the least at the outcome...that's why I'd really rather not waste the moola on viewing propaganda.

~Zoo

Pastafarian? Do you mean Rastafarian, or are you making a funny.

People pay to see An Inconvenient Truth, don't they?

A Pastifarian is one who believes that the universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.



It's actually a belief system to explain how exactly Intelligent Design occurred, thanks to the grand Spaghediety. Read more here.



'People' pay to see a lot of things. You must've paid to see Expelled. I wasn't talking about 'people'. I was asking KFC, specifically, knowing her as I do, if she would pay to watch An Inconvenient Truth, or an evolution-heavy documentary.

On another note, That brilliant satire of the Sistine Chapel is now my desktop background, supplanting the difficult-to-overcome hotness that is Alexis Bledel.

I'll probably be back to Alexis tomorrow, though . . .

Guess who's got new wallpaper.

~Zoo

And I mean, there's evidence of the FSM, too! Actual photographic evidence!

Mark Mathis sort of shot the movie in the foot when he refused to let PZ Myers into the film where he (Mathis) would be answering questions later.

 

He pretended that it was because Myers wasn't invited, but the invites were sent out via Internet.  Richard dawkins got in as a "guest" under Myers name.  Guests didn't show on the list.

 

Now why would Mathis not want Myers there when he was thanked at the end of the film?

 

 

I linked this very broadcast on Era's blog about ID.  Don't believe us...listen for yourself.  Mathis is NOT your friend.  He put his foot so far in it he makes all believers look like agenda driven idiots.  There are bad apples in every barrel.  Bad scientists, bad believers.  Mathis is a bad man all around.  Scientists and believers alike should suspend their disagreements long enough to out this guy for what he is.  A spin doctor and a liar.

 

 

It isn't a joke.  I didn't really scroll up to who said it, so I won't discuss it in context, but instead, will make an attempt at educating you.

 

When someone somewhere decided that ID should be taught in the science class, it angered some people.  It angered them because ID is not science as science defines itself.  It's untestable and unproveable.  A lot of science minded folks believed, maybe for right or wrong, that it was just an agenda to get creationism taught in public schools.

 

So these people that were angered started preaching the gospel of the "Flying Spaghetti Monster."  The FSM supposedly created the whole universe with his noodley appendage.  And they said that if you were going to allow ONE unproveable doctrine into science class, then you had to allow them all - including the Flying Spaghetti Monster. 

 

Adherants of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are other known as "Pastafarians."  get it?  *rimshot*

Got it.

I've gotta sign up for this.

All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

~Zoo

I understand what you're saying SC. I actually agree with you but I don't see this movie that way.

The way I see it is the left has no problem repeatedly putting out distorted
"documentaries", but as soon as someone that leans a little more conservatively puts things in perspective, they get all flustered. You really need to see the movie to properly comment on it tho.

I emailed my son to get his review. I told him of our conversation. He said this:

I thought the movie was good. they inverviewed some of the most
prominent evolutionists alive, and i didn't see any distortion of the facts or
anyone taken out of context. Richard dawkins always says that he's
"taken out of context" but at one point in the movie Stein is reading to
Dawkins out of his own book "the god delusion." what the evolutionists
said on camera is no different from what they have previously written or
said in the past. they interviewed a number of scientists (both
christian and not christian) who lost their jobs over this issue. that guy
you're talking to can't cry foul without actually seeing the movie and
listing which historical facts were taken out of context (belief in
evolution doesn't count as a historical fact since its a worldview).
scientific american is a magazine similar to the sports illustrated version of
a science magazine. its hardly an unbiased source. and tell your
friend that the "agenda" of the movie that he talks about isn't to kill
evolution or to push intelligent design on anyone. the agenda of the movie
is make the point that America is a country founded on freedoms,
specifically the freedom of inquiry, and our intellectual freedom is being
taken away in the scientific community.

Zoo, do not embed videos, just link. Please?

If'n I must.


Ben Stein thrills us with his scientific prowess regarding evolution: WWW Link

~Zoo