Yap, 20 bucks...
How about the price of the content ? The excellent ones.
You don't have problem ? I do. To get product distributed, it's must be mostly compatible not just for some people of the world.

Wow, the payware is fully skinned ... Thanks 4 the info.
Should buy..

mycolors is free. some of the suites are free. some suites cost as much as $19.95. mycolors skins xp and vista.

hyperdesk is free. some of the suites are free. some suites cost as much as $19.95. hyperdesk skins xp.




that's all i'm going to say.

Most everyone I know    If we didn't care why use any icons at all. Having a mix of mostly XP and a few skinned icons is worse than using stock XP IMO.

Wow

It's been resolved. Please see the post before me. The payware doesn't have the issue. The free does have. Advertising tactic.

And, oh yeah, a little missing icons don't add much weight. Most everyone u know ? How many of them compared to people of the world ? Skin community is good, but the fact is a lot of people outside know about skinning too.

Oh.. the Pay themes are fully skinned and have full iconsets?? Ohh.. well why didn't you say that??

Silly me... Screeny please   

Oh now we're 'stardock guys'. Love hyperdesk or you're a stardock guy. and I suppose the people who criticize WindowBlinds themes are all hyperdesk guys now?

Hyperdesks problem is that it is the phantom menace of skinning. It was hyped but endlessly in screenshot teasers for months and months and when it shows up you end up with a really fancy pretty website that when you download the one free 'hypertheme' it turns out to be a pretty mediocre, buggy, theme.
Can any 'hyperdesk guys' honestly say that the free sony theme is even as good as an average visual style you can find on deviant art? It's no where near as good as one of Studio28's skins.
Like Phantom Menace, hyperdesk isn't terrible, it's just not very good and because of the hyperhype its makers gave it expectations were higher. All I can tell is that the Hyperdesk guys are very good at making pretty screenshots and fancy websites.

What a load of crap.

I can buy Object Desktop for $50 and get thousands of skins and themes, gadgets, widgets, more for free.

Funny thing is....Kol/studio28 is the person who made the hypersuites.

It's also been around A LOT longer, if HyperDesk was around for the amount of time lets say ThemeManager was then they'd have thousands to choose from as well.

It would seem the world is full of muppets... 

There's like dozens of WB3 skins that look better than that. Hope that's not a pay one.

^$10. Love how the previews didn't actually show any open window contents.

And seriously now.....who the hell doesn't "Hype" they're stuff around here? And I don't mean just WC or Stardock. Everyone always thinks/claims they have the next best thing. If anyone's stuff is that good...it will speak for itself...no hype is needed. Man....its like coming home in the morning and turning on the TV only to find nothing but infomercials anymore. Then when you finally get this next best thing...well...it ain't all it was cracked up to be. And if I come here one day to find Billy Maze or whatever his name is selling stuff I'm throwing this damn pc out the window!

It cleans carpets, removes stains, and makes babies stop crying too!

I agree,same with Vista without proper folders.1/4 done is worse than not done at all.
Lucky me,I have Vista-no Vista hyperdesk anytime soon.


But still with the same limitations,x1,000's,while WindowBlinds continues to innovate,improve and evolve.(Did I mention it works with Vista?)

And one other point,before I go.People are free here to voice their opinions and complaints about Stardock products.It's something I've come to respect the company for.Feedback,both good and bad is a vital part of product development,imo.Only a company that has no interest in its customers or the future of its products would want to ignore it.

I dont hear any complaining about Stardock products, All I "hear" (or read for that matter) is the same thing posted by the same people 30 times in the exact same manor, voicing your opinion is one thing but when you post the exact same thing 10 times it gets repetitive fast.

No good comes from these arguments, its happened with VS vs. WB (And Hyperdesk visual styles are more or less a strict adaptation of the standard visual style), so why don't we just end it with; To each his own.
Everyone seems so intent on bashing one another, pick one to use and move on?

Well said. This thread wasn't started as a Hyperdesk problem thread. It wasn't started as a Hyperdesk bashing thread. It was started to have a mature discussion about Hyperdesk, the newest way to skin your desktop. People are entitled to their opinions. I have both WB and Hyperdesk on my PC. After using the Sony theme for a bit, I switched back to WB. I don't have one of the pay themes. I have no opinion on them. Lets try to keep this an un-bashing thread or you know Zoomba will be in here with his get some stick to close it.   

Then stop coming back   

Sometimes it's a good idea to take the advice you give... like now for instance!

That'll be me, more likely...;)

Everyone's entitled to an opinion....educated ones are preferred...;)

/me admits to being a hack and has always been surprised anyone downloads his stuff.  He makes it for himself and then shares. 

It looks like that choice was made for me already.
Not that I'd want to try it anyway.WB6 is stable and reliable ,I'll stick with what works for me.


That was a general reference to the forums,in which you will find an occasional complaint.
A company that listens to it's critics shuts them up by improving the products or services.
A company that censors it's critics just shuts them up.

People complain about and report and suggest features for Stardock and many other company's apps in these forums.  Hyperdesk is teh newk id on the block and will be compared.  It's natural nad good.

Open discussion topics:

1. Artistic merit - very subjective - interesting but un-win-able
   
2. Completeness of skinning - VS vs. WB  . .. been done but can still be interesting
   
3. Required completeness - very subjective . . why bother
   
4. Marketing - subjective . . but with facts available to support
   

Pointless discussion topics:

1. "Hyperdesk sucks"
2. "Windowblinds sucks"
3. "Zubaz can't type"
4. "MikeB's Old Republic skin is the baddest mo' fo' around

 

Guess I'll jump in here... as someone who started designing .msstyles seven years ago and designing Windowblinds skins within the last few years, I have seen a lot changes in the "skinning" world. I design for both .msstyles and Windowblinds, and always will.

I have tried several products for applying .msstyles and even the UXTHEME.DLL patch. Of course none of them ever came close to the capabilities that StyleXP had in the .msstyles world before its demise (not compatible with XP SP3).

A quality product was definitely needed for users who wish to continue use the .msstyles format and stay with Windows XP, and Hyperdesk is a first attempt at filling that need, I admire the creators for that.

While it lacks a lot of the features that StyleXP had, I am certain it will improve in the future. It is ture that it will never have all the abilities of Windowblinds because of its patching the UXTHEME.DLL in memory, but I do not think it was ever intended to compete with it. So arguing that Windowblinds is better than Hyperdesk is like the old arguments when people would compare StyleXP to Windowblinds. It is a moot point at this stage, there is no need to compare products, each is designed to fill different user needs.

The interface in Hyperdesk is in fact very well done and easy to use, and while I do agree that the Sony Ericsson and possibly other themes are lacking in design/quality in some areas, the product itself holds merit.

I applaud any company that attempts to enter the skinning world with a new product, and many have done so over the years and died out since, but lets give credit where credit is due.

Windowblinds is an excellent product, Hyperdesk I am sure will be too. I mean, I don't think anyone ever mentioned products that can apply .msstyles like Auslogic's Visual Styler, or TuneUp Softwares Styler2, which are both XP and Vista compatible here at WC when they were released, so why talk so much about Hyperdesk?

I really look forward to the possibility of Hyperdesk replacing products like StyleXP among others, and I hope to see its capabilities expand in the future, and go on to Windows Vista. I also hope to see software released that will allow for creating .msstyles for Vista.

I am a skinner, I support all companies that aid me in my design work, and I do not complain or ridicule any of them. I just try to design for them all, for without them there would be no way at all for my work to be seen. Maybe we should all try this humble philosophy?

Well put LightStar!