Will This EVER End?

Moved and reposted from June 17, 2004 Well, I haven't blogged about Brian and Carol for a month or more now, but the last few days have just driven me almost to the edge of insanity.....so I need to get it off my chest before I fall off into the big black hole of craziness!!

The latest episode started on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Before Barry and I went to bed, Brian told us that he was waiting for Carol to call him when she got home from King's Island (an area amusement park), where she had gone with yet ANOTHER guy....and then they were probably going to "hang out" for a while. I didn't have a problem with that, because I presumed he would wind up back here--ALONE--before the night was over.

About 4 AM, the phone rang, waking me out of a sound sleep. That was enough to scare me half to death, especially when I looked at the clock and realized what time it was. I groggily answered, and heard this rather snotty voice say "Hello" , then a pause where no one said anything, and then the male voice continued "Yeah, I know where you are, because I've been following you all night, since you got home from
No such luck....at 4:30, the phone rings again. At this point, I'm ready to scream, so I give up and answer the phone again. This time, instead of Matt, it's the guy in whose parents' house Carol has been living since March, who asks to speak to Brian. I said wasn't even sure he was home, but that I would check--if I had it to do over again, I would tell him that we didn't accept phone calls that late/early, and he could call back at a more respectable hour. Instead, I pulled on my robe, and went across the hall to knock on Brian's door and tell him he had a call.

Well, he just barely opened his door and stuck his hand out, which is VERY unusual for him, to begin with....and then it didn't help that, from the angle where I was standing, I could tell that he was standing there totally naked. Girl in the room, boy totally naked....well, I may not be a math major, but I can still add 2 and 2, and come up with teenage sex. I was SO ticked off....I just walked away before I said too much, and he decided to take off.

I suppose Brian thought I was clueless about Carol being there, though...when he got up the next morning, he came into the kitchen and fixed himself a bowl of cereal. I just looked at him and said "Is Carol still here, or did she leave already?", thinking maybe she had gone running back to Matt again, as she did on Prom Night. He gave me a stunned look and said she was still here. I told him to go wake her up and send her home....I was done playing nice by then, since I hadn't slept anymore after 4:30.

When she left, Brian went with her, and we didn't see him again until Monday afternoon, around 2:30, when he showed up with Carol tagging along behind him. They had lunch, he took a shower, and then they left again...him to go to work, her to go home, I suppose. Just added to my anger...apparently he saw nothing wrong with bringing her all the way across town to mooch food off us and then go home!! She still has no job, she's not going to school, she's not doing ANYTHING but playing video games, watching anime, and being online. I have no interest in supporting her in any way, shape, or form, KWIM?

Managed to get through the rest of Monday and all of Tuesday without any more difficulty....and then yesterday I decided to read her blog again....and nearly went through the ceiling. She had posted three different articles regarding the weekend, in essence....the first was her version of the events, which was so full of LIES that I barely recognized it at all....but it was an attempt to win Matt back, so she can continue playing her little games with both of them--but in the process, she admitted that she had been in this EXACT situation before, so I'd say it's a good bet this is a behavior pattern for her.

Her second article was a copy of an instant message conversation between her and Matt....he called her a slut and told her he was finished with her....UNLESS she cut all ties to Brian, had no further contact with him at all...and then just waited for him (Matt) to decide how long it would take for her to prove herself to him. (Oh, and he left Ohio on Sunday, and went back to NY where his parents are....says he won't be coming back....but yet gave Carol that ultimatum???) She was virtually begging him to give her another chance, claiming that Brian meant nothing to her, and that he, Matt, means everything. He told her to take the entire day to think things over before she decided which one of them she really wanted.

The third article was her decision. No big surprise, she wrote that she was choosing Matt, and said all sorts of horrible things about Brian and their "relationship".......but guess where Brian spent the night last night?????????

At this point, I am ready to go "Tough Love" on him and kick him out of our house.....I don't approve of the choices he's making, and I don't think we should have to be subjected to them.

Thoughts, opinions, comments?????


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Reply By: Zoomba Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
I say show him her blog... If he has a brain in his head he'll be finished with the bitch. I've been used by girls before, but Carol takes it to a new level.
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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
I say show him her blog... If he has a brain in his head he'll be finished with the bitch. I've been used by girls before, but Carol takes it to a new level.


The sad thing is, he's read it, every last word of it....and he excuses it by saying she writes what she wants Matt to hear/read, and not the truth.
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Reply By: Zoomba Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
Then sadly there's nothing you can do to turn him away from this girl... if he's that blinded by love/lust/general confusion... he has to learn the hard way. The best you can do is not allow her in your home... if she does show up, threaten to have her arrested for trespassing... If he keeps pulling this disappearing crap for days at a time, tell him to get his stuff out since he hardly lives at home anymore anyway.
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Reply By: dharmagrl Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
he excuses it by saying she writes what she wants Matt to hear/read, and not the truth.




So, who's to say that she's telling him the 'truth'? She's probably telling Matt that she's telling Brian 'what he wants to hear'. I'm wth Zoomba. Make it perfectly clear to her that you don't want her in your home, eating your food, using your bed linens, walking on your carpet, breathing your air, etc. Tell her that the next time she shows up there you'll have her arrested.



As for your son....dude, you're going to have to pull some tough love tactics on him. Perhaps once he has to support himself and herself as well he'll get a clue and tell her to get lost.



Oh, and here's a thought? What is this Matt guy offering her now anyway? He's gone, he can't give her any kind of physical support, so that's probably why she's hanging with your son...she's got to have a meal ticket of some kind.



Can you give me the address of her blog? I'd like to have a read....

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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
I'm wth Zoomba. Make it perfectly clear to her that you don't want her in your home, eating your food, using your bed linens, walking on your carpet, breathing your air, etc. Tell her that the next time she shows up there you'll have her arrested.


I told her that she was no longer welcome here...that she is persona non grata of the highest degree...and that if she didn't know what that meant, to look it up...

As for your son....dude, you're going to have to pull some tough love tactics on him. Perhaps once he has to support himself and herself as well he'll get a clue and tell her to get lost.


He started working full-time on Monday, and he says that his plan is to move out as soon as he can afford it. However, if things keep up the way they are, Barry and I have already discussed the fact that I will ask him to leave....and then Barry will be here to put me back together as I fall apart when he DOES go....

Can you give me the address of her blog? I'd like to have a read....


I'll email it to you....don't want to publicize it...much as I'm tempted.....I still have SOME self-control.


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Reply By: KarmaGirl Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
Can you give me the address of her blog? I'd like to have a read....


Yeah, I'd like to read it, too, so that I can see both sides....actually, that's a lie- I want to see what this chic thinks she's getting away with.

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Reply By: Zoomba Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
I have to admit I'm curious too about the blog address... just to get a glimpse into the mind of a manipulative bitch.
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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
...well, heck, if everybody wants it.....http://www.livejournal.com/users/eoclrae/

Have at it.....
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Reply By: dharmagrl Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2004
Well, she's a lame little girl, isn't she? Her friend 'czerniana' had some sage advice for her...and Brian made a comment about making his 'ever broken family' and his work a priority, which is good.

She's a silly, manipulative little girl from the sounds of things. Your son would be well rid of her - but you already knew that.

Oh, she posted her number on the net.....yeah, that's really smart.

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Reply By: KarmaGirl Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
hehe...looks like she deleted the new stuff you were talking about.

This girl is 19? What the hell? She's acting like some misguided 16 year old. I think you need to make your son see the light about this girl. I think that your idea of asking him to leave might be for his own good. Maybe he won't actually have to leave- maybe he will see it as a wake up call. Or, fake a call from the disease prevention center and say that they were given information that your son was her partner and that she has some heinous STD. (OK, that was my evil "Karma" showing there )

I can't believe that she posted her phone number...what was she thinking? Some evil person could set her up as a porn business line in one of the online yellow pages like InfoUSA which feeds yahoo.....oops...Evil Karma speaking again.....

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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
I can't believe that she posted her phone number...what was she thinking? Some evil person could set her up as a porn business line in one of the online yellow pages like InfoUSA which feeds yahoo.....oops...Evil Karma speaking again.....


Bad, Bad Karma.....don't go giving me ideas here!

I've pretty much washed my hands of the whole thing. She's not welcome here, but what he does away from here is his business. As for her "distancing herself"....they talked on the phone at least twice yesterday, and he went there after work last night....so I don't see much distance there, but what do I know? According to Brian, the situation is just too COMPLEX for me to UNDERSTAND it......:::gag:::
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Reply By: dharmagrl Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
Yeah, you're just a mom, how could you ever hope to understand it? *rolls eyes*.....



Perhaps I should call her......

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Reply By: KarmaGirl Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
According to Brian, the situation is just too COMPLEX for me to UNDERSTAND it......:::


You can't understand because he can't reasonably explain it. He wants to have the freedom to do what he wants with the safety net of Mom's home and food. He hasn't hit reality yet. That girl's just playin' him. Too bad he can't see that.

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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
Perhaps I should call her......


Now you know I couldn't possible condone something like that, Miss Dharma
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Reply By: shadesofgrey Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
Or, fake a call from the disease prevention center and say that they were given information that your son was her partner and that she has some heinous STD.

Perhaps I should call her......

Some evil person could set her up as a porn business line in one of the online yellow pages like InfoUSA which feeds yahoo


Poetmom, I would never encourage you to be mean to someone who didn't deserve, but this sounds well deserved. I say do all three! And let us know how it goes! (wow, evilKarma is rubbing off on her little sister! )




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Reply By: Kayles Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
This girl is 19? What the hell? She's acting like some misguided 16 year old. I think you need to make your son see the light about this girl. I think that your idea of asking him to leave might be for his own good. Maybe he won't actually have to leave- maybe he will see it as a wake up call. Or, fake a call from the disease prevention center and say that they were given information that your son was her partner and that she has some heinous STD. (OK, that was my evil "Karma" showing there )


16? Maybe even younger! What the hell is with the dry humping-thing? She's definitely screwed in the head! Most people that are that manipulative are......



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Reply By: shadesofgrey Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
What the hell is with the dry humping-thing?


yea, i was wondering that too, just thought it was better to ignore it--but if you want to be creative, I'm sure it could lead a hand in coming up with a good name for the Porn Business Line Karma suggested.
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Reply By: Poetmom99 Posted: Friday, June 18, 2004
Poetmom, I would never encourage you to be mean to someone who didn't deserve, but this sounds well deserved. I say do all three! And let us know how it goes! (wow, evilKarma is rubbing off on her little sister! )


Now, come on, folks...I can't have any part in anything like that....but if some other people were to do any of them, without my knowledge....well, then I couldn't be held responsible, now could I?

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Glad to see you are still with us Poetmom!