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Because it's funny: US says their bomb is bigger...

Because it's funny: US says their bomb is bigger...

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070913/78518873.html


It's penis contests like this that make me love US-Russian relations... God it's wonderful...


anyway... apparently this is a 14 ton bomb... which is ridiculous as you'd have to use a b52 or something to drop it... and unlike the russian bomb this one "penetrates" and has been specifically earmarked for use against Iran's nuclear bunkers should we decide to take his toys away... and give him a fair spanking for all the trouble.
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Reply #76 Top
WHOOOOO!!!

I was actually about to tell you to do that.

All praise his Grandly Awesomely Cool and All Knowing Holliness, SCHOD the GOD!!!!
Reply #77 Top
there!


here?
Reply #78 Top
here?


No, no over there by where Karam used to be.


Reply #79 Top
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Reply #80 Top
Schod!!! He called me Emo, smite him!!!

Oh, and I will use your intestines as jump rope, you just wont know when it happens.
Reply #81 Top
you just wont know when it happens.


that will be a neat trick
Reply #82 Top
that will be a neat trick


Oh you bet
Reply #83 Top
*twiddles fingers*

here you go, six feet of sqrl's intestines.
Reply #84 Top
The Philipines certainly didn't have a stable democratic government after we left despite our stated intent being "to prepare the Philipines for independence."
that doesn't help prove we're an empire though.


Oh I'm sorry, cases of blatent imperialism don't prove the US was imperialist.

Ok I MIGHT buy your point if this was an isolated incident. But after the Spanish American War we made Cuba our protectorate and it stayed that way until Catro took over. In 1893, white sugar plantation owners staged a coup against the Hawaiian royalty so that they could offer Hawaii to the US for annexation, which after much debate was accepted in 1898 (US marines even provided the "big stick" threat to keep any anti-coup forces intimated, technically they were supposed to protect American citizens and property, but from what nation do you think the coup leaders, those white plantation owners came from?). In addition, the expansion of the US into Native American lands was imperialism (taking land away from weaker cultures and forcing the survivors into second-class citizen status...yea call me crazy but I'd call that imperialist). So the US isn't imperialist is it?

Mossadegh Government who had no popular support


Sorry, thats bs. The Mossadegh government was highly popular especially for nationalizing the oil fields (for some reason the poor people of third world countries prefer their government, and in the case of a good democracy themselves, get the money from oil revenue than some rich first worlder, hmmmmm I don't understand...). As part of the overthrow, the CIA even hired anti-Mossadegh protestors (which might be where you got the idea that Mossadegh was unpopular). I will even provide a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

Check under the section titled "From the Pahlavi era to the Iranian Revolution." Furthermore, you might note that Mossadegh was accused of being sympathetic to the communists not that he actually was. Alternatively, the source for this stuff on wikipedia is a very interesting page off CNN from when the US and UK admitted and apologized (that's right, apologized so even the US government knows its actions were wrong) for overthrowing Mossadegh.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0004/19/i_ins.00.html

I stand firmly by my point, the US is an imperialist power. If my fellow US citizens cannot accept this fact, then how are we supposed to change the US foreign policy for the better?
Reply #85 Top

The Philipines certainly didn't have a stable democratic government after we left despite our stated intent being "to prepare the Philipines for independence."
that doesn't help prove we're an empire though.


Oh I'm sorry, cases of blatent imperialism don't prove the US was imperialist.

Ok I MIGHT buy your point if this was an isolated incident. But after the Spanish American War we made Cuba our protectorate and it stayed that way until Catro took over. In 1893, white sugar plantation owners staged a coup against the Hawaiian royalty so that they could offer Hawaii to the US for annexation, which after much debate was accepted in 1898 (US marines even provided the "big stick" threat to keep any anti-coup forces intimated, technically they were supposed to protect American citizens and property, but from what nation do you think the coup leaders, those white plantation owners came from?). In addition, the expansion of the US into Native American lands was imperialism (taking land away from weaker cultures and forcing the survivors into second-class citizen status...yea call me crazy but I'd call that imperialist). So the US isn't imperialist is it?

Ah, this is of course correct.

Our acquisitions during our "sea to shining sea" expansion and later ceasure of spanish colonial territory was imperialistic.


And we did run those like an empire for awhile.


Currently though with the exception of a few small military bases we've either absorbed those territories as full represented and equal state, given up the territory, and/or given it the option to become an independent country which it has chosen by majority vote to avoid.

I'm not ignoring the genocide of native people's either.


However, if you were to ask if the US is an Empire today? Not really. We certainly have behaved like an empire in the past though.

Sorry, thats bs. The Mossadegh government was highly popular especially for nationalizing the oil fields (for some reason the poor people of third world countries prefer their government, and in the case of a good democracy themselves, get the money from oil revenue than some rich first worlder, hmmmmm I don't understand...).

This is typically a scam. Any political movement can promise beer and circuses to get quick support especially from poor people. But economically it's not sustainable. An example of this can be seen in almost any oil producing country. Most of them have nationalized their oil reserves and initially there was a great deal of wealth. But a population can't do much more then subsist off of that unless have other industries and businesses going... and for "some" reason most of them don't.

Name the last time you bought something that said "made in --name of any major oil producer--"... with the exception of oil of course.


Dubai is an example of HOW to invest your oil money into something sustainable. Currently the country is spending billions on turning their country into a world class tourist mecca. They've apparently more then doubled their coastline with absolutely huge earth works and have built up a society that seems both welcoming to foreign investment and foreign trade.


On the other hand Iran and Venezuela invest their money in weapons, armies, and instead of boosting trade seem to go out of their way to make everyone both nervous and upset with them. What is Iran's future? What happens when their oil runs out?


*crickets*


They're morons with guns.

I stand firmly by my point

Your point rests almost entirely on actions that happened about a century ago or in the throws of the cold war.


And in all cases except for a few military bases here and there we've intentionally freed or given the option of freedom to each and every territory. Empires don't do that. If they grant freedom its because they don't have a choice. In every case we've done it we've had more then enough muscle to maintain control.


Your argument needs work.

Reply #86 Top
here you go, six feet of sqrl's intestines.


Awesome!! Thanks Schod.

Now what should we do with these unbelieving infadels who dare defy your might?
Reply #87 Top
duh, smite them with sqrls intestines!
Reply #88 Top
Oh duh how stupid of my mortal self.

I think Karma should be first