Life is unfair- get over it......

Amen, sister, amen.

Shit happens.  This isn't Utopia.  There will always be someone who is better off than you, has more than you, gets more than you.  That's just the way things are.

The government can't do everything for people.  There has to be some personal responsibility in there somewhere.  Again, you can choose to sit on your haunches and bitch about how things are unfair, or you can do something to try and improve your lot in life and thereby level your perceived playing field a little.  The government can hand you the tools to make yourself better; it's up to you to utilize them.

I would go on, but what I have to say wouldn't be very nice and would end up being directed at people personally.  This isn't the place to do that.

On the other hand, just as annoying are those who loudly trumpet their country's government 'progress'. I agree with you Karma, but feel that it goes both ways.

Or, is it the best they can do to meet the wants and ideals of the majority?

The fact that you can't please everyone one, does mean that others get left out. There's nothing wrong with wanting to change, but I believe that action must come from people, and yelling the loudest should not be seen as actually 'acting for change'. Walk it, not just talk it.

I believe that action must come from people, and yelling the loudest should not be seen as actually 'acting for change'. Walk it, not just talk it.

Exactly. 

 

On the other hand, just as annoying are those who loudly trumpet their country's government 'progress'. I agree with you Karma, but feel that it goes both ways.

It's true.  But, there are also people like me that sit somewhere in the middle and pick the most important battles first.  I don't think we are necessarily making progress, but we aren't going down the tubes either.  Things have just changed with the times.

There are things that I don't agree with, but when picking my battles I start locally with the things that will directly effect me (like my daughter's school, millage proposals, etc.)  Then I decide what is most important and try and fix one thing at a time.  When people just cry about everything that is unfair, they really just make noise.  They don't *do" anything but complain.  How many times do you a post of "I am on the committee for...."  Or, "I am trying to raise funds for...."  Or "Join my on xx/xx/2004 when we will do....."  No, instead you just hear people complain.......and complain about everything.

Life will always be unfair to somebody........

Walk it, not just talk it.

Amen to that!

I may not particularly agree with you, though your thrust has merit; but more importantly is your tone that needs mellowing.

Why would my tone need mellowing?  It's a rant.  Do you not understand what a rant is?  This is also my blog, remember?  If I have a beef with something, then why shouldn't I air it?  So, I'm sick of everyone whining all the time and never *doing* anything.  Why should I "mellow" my tone on that?  If this was a rant about some "inequality", you would be jumping in here to fuel the flames.  But, since it is a rant about whining people who *do* nothing, you say that my tone needs mellowing.  Nice.

I work hard. left school early to help out my mum and worked my way up to assistant manager of a resort from scrubbing toilets.

Sponsor children in third world countries.

Support 9 local charities and 4 national ones.

Am on the commitee of the surf life saving club and little athletics ( where I pay for a family of 3 talented young athletes who's family couldn't afford it.

Am involved in youth programs.

Volunteer for street angels.

Is that the kind of trumpet blowing you want ...am i allowed to whinge now?

Jess

BTW none of these things effect me or mine ...except for work

Can you say the same?

Jess, I think that you are missing the point.  What I am saying is that I am sick of people just whining about everything because it's not "fair" or not how *they* want it, but yet they don't do anything but bitch about it.

Do you see me on here complaining about some inequality in my life?  No.  Because I don't.  If I did see an inequality, I would be *doing* what I can to change it.  Just like everyone else, I run into things that I don't like or that aren't "fair" to me, but I don't just sit around whining about it expecting somebody else to fix my issues.  I also am quite aware that you have to pick your battles and realize that there will be things that you will never be able to change

Charity is great for people who can afford it.  People give back to society in all sorts of ways.  I'm not going to post what I donate to because it serves no purpose.  My rant is about people who just complain but actually do nothing.  They just want somebody else to fix it for them.

Yea but there are probably lots of people who do stuff just don't blow there own trumpet

Its not something I normally do either ..just pointing out ..that because Joeusers dont post it ..doesn't mean they dont do it.

Jess

I think I have a genetic pre-disposition to not liking lamers.

What is a lamer? A lamer is someone who bitches and moans about how unfair life is and how things need to be fixed...but not by them. They think their whining IS the contribution.

If my car's tire is flat you have 3 options: 1) Change it yourself. 2) Ask or pay for someone else to change it for you. 3) Sit there and complain about your tire being flat.

Options 1 and 2 involve some sort of ACTION. Option 3 is just pointless whining.

 

What is a lamer? A lamer is someone who bitches and moans about how unfair life is and how things need to be fixed...but not by them. They think their whining IS the contribution.

Exactly. 

Were those who spoke out agaisnt genocide in Rwanda, Cambodia, Germany, etc. lamers? What about the people who have spoken about agaisnt the actions of PFC England in Iraq? How about Ghandi? Martin Luther King?

Hard problems can't be solved by just one person working alone. What can you do to get people to work with you, besides speak (whine)?

How about Ghandi? Martin Luther King?

Sorry, they actually walked the walk.  They didn't just sit in their comfy home and complain. I think you may be missing the point.

You're right. I don't get it. Especially in the case of Martin Luther King, who spoke out agaisnt those who were taking (radical) action, doing more than just speaking, and trying to change people's attitudes. This isn't to say that he didn't advocate any action, but his impact came from the advocation, and not the action

What did Martin Luther King do? He spoke out agaisnt (whined about?) Rosa Park's treatment, and a boycott was established. Following that, he went on the lecture circuit, and spoke (whined?) about broader injustices. He worked with the Southern Christiann Leadership Conference, where people gathered to speak (whine?). If he could have reached millions of people by writing on the internet, instead of having to travel around the country, speaking to hundreds of people at a time, do you think he would have done that? Would he then just be another person who "sit[s] in their confy home and complain[s]"? What, exactly, is the problem with that? Are writers who have moved millions of people and changed the course of history whiners? Is all they're doing sitting in their comfy houses and complaining?

my rant was about people on JU whining.  I doubt that if MLK was in todays world that all he would do is get online and complain.  If he had online means, he would set up websites for people to join- he wouldn't just log in to some chat site and write articles that only a few would see.  He would use the internet to organize people and to get people of the same ideals to meet up and work on a solution.  He would still rally people and travel and speak to people.  He would work on getting his words out to the masses.  People who hide behind nicknames and post on websites that are funded by somebody else can no way be put in the same terms as people like MLK.

I doubt that if MLK was in todays world that all he would do is get online and complain . . . People who hide behind nicknames and post on websites that are funded by somebody else can no way be put in the same terms as people like MLK.

Jess already mentioned this, but how do you know that these people aren't doing more than just complaining online? Did MLK personally provide the funding for every venue that he spoke at? Haven't a number of JU users revealed their real names?

What am I allowed to write about anyway? If I decide to sit down for five minutes to write an "article", will the world be better off if I write about my last vacation instead of social security? No? Should I then never write anything at all? Should anyone ever write anything?

how do you know that these people aren't doing more than just complaining online?

Because the kind of people that are complaining online are also the kind of people who would be the first to toot their own horn and tell us all what they had/have done.  They have in the past.

What am I allowed to write about anyway?

Write about whatever you want to.  I am thinking that you haven't read enough on here to know what I am ranting about.  Dharma, however, seems to "get it". 

MLK did not fund everything.  But, he did head fundraisers.  He also devoted his life to what he was doing, and people knew what he was doing.  There is no way that you can compare the people who have changed history with the people that I am ranting about.  they aren't even in the same league.

true

One thing I believe is..... in America only the people that bothered to vote have any right tp whinge about the govermnent

Jess

Jess, very true.  I wish that was law, though!

We have compulsory voting but even if we didn't I would still vote.

If you don't care enough to vote ....then you have no right to complain about the government.

If you don't vote against them ..you may as well have voted for them

Jess

Wow, you've discounted a lot of people and a lot of discussions. May I ask why there is a referral list to Joeuser? May I ask why you think there are writers? Magazines? Newspapers? So when someone writes that the war in Iraq is fundamentaly about stopping terrorists and we should support our troops, unless they are actually fighting in the war or a member of the Homeland Security, their blog should be called whinning and discounted? Or is it only the ones that see problems that they think should be fixed that are whinning?
Do you know how many interesting things I've learned while reading some of the blogs on here?

Wisefawn, you obviously do not understand what was discussed in this blog.  But, I really don't think that you will be able to understand.