And you call MICROSOFT a Monopoly?

I am sick to death of Mac snobs. In variably in any discussion with Mac fanbois, they will cry about Microsoft being a monopoly.

Yeah, uh huh. Keep crying because your computer manufacturer was insanely stupid. The computer company that really brought the idea of upgradeability to personal computing, now puts out boxes that can't be upgraded. The computer company that started serious work on GUI, yet didn't have the foresight to protect it so that Microsoft could use it to create competing operating systems.

But, see, that's only the tip of the iceberg. If you look back at the monopolies that started antitrust legislation, they controlled the suppliers of raw goods, the manufaturing plants, the distribution plants. Basically they controlled costs because all of their suppliers belonged to them.

That doesn't sound like Microsoft, it sounds like Apple.

Quick. Name me three major PC manufacturers. Even the brain dead could come up with HP, Gateway, and Dell. Now, name me three major Mac manufacturers. Apple. (crickets chirp).

Ok, ok, so maybe that wasn't completely fair. Walk into the computer store and ask for a new video card for your iMac (will you crickets STOP that d*** chirping?!?)

Maybe I've given you guys a bum rap. Why don't you just give me the URL of a supplier where I can buy Mac OS/10 to install on my PC (ok, that cricket chirping is getting SERIOUSLY annoying!!!!)

Microsoft may be annoying. Microsoft may engage in less than perfect business practices. But Microsoft is an O/S, they have nothing to do with the BUILDING of my computer, and they don't lock the system from upgrades. I can buy components off the shelf to build a PC, and honestly, the choice of whether to install Windows on that computer is entirely mine. Nobody forced me to do it. I CAN pick from several Linux distros. Yes, I might have to work harder to install them and make them functional, but that's part of exercising choice.

Those choices aren't widely available on a Mac. If Microsoft is the Devil, then Apple is certainly the devil's wetnurse, the evil she demon of an O/S and OEM monopoly combined. But since Mac has a piddly share of the market, nobody seems to give a rat's heinie.

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Well said.
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Uh-Oh..
Phoon waits quietly for the shitstorm to hit..  
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You can always tell a blog. The author switches from one viewpoint to another in successive articles. There isn't actually a definitive view, just something designed to illicit a response from the reader.

My response, as always, will be minimal. If you enjoy using Windows, then use Windows. If you enjoy using a Mac, then use a Mac. As long as you enjoy yourself what's it matter what others think?

Life is about having fun. If you need to go searching further then there's something missing

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Fuzzy Logic - Well stated and to the point.   
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Fuzzy, you're an asshole. Goodbye.

You talk about life being about having fun, yet you're the most condescending, pompous piece of S*** I've seen. Welcome to the blacklist.

It shouldn't bother you anyway. You obviously don't think much of my blog in the first place.
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Microsoft and Apple should be proud they can arouse this kind of passion.
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personally i dont like apple, but people have the choice to use either and i wont
belittle those people, i prefer windows for the reasons stated, ease of upgrades, lots of components are compatible, but that said the apple o/s is a very good piece of software but it is a little bare of accessories.

freedom of choice is what makes the world go around.

i will say one thing, i find the latest round of apple advertisments to be a little offensive, especially coming from a product that has less that 5% of market share.
but then thats just my opinion
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Fuzzy, you're an asshole. Goodbye.

You talk about life being about having fun, yet you're the most condescending, pompous piece of S*** I've seen. Welcome to the blacklist.

It shouldn't bother you anyway. You obviously don't think much of my blog in the first place.


obviously an apple spokesman
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Good to see debate is alive and well   
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There's a huge difference between debate and asshattery, Fuzzy. Yours wasn't a debate, it was your typical snooty condescending insults.

A debate would have been you offering counterpoints, not using your time to put me down because I don't hold to your point of view.

This isn't the first time you've done this, Fuzzy. You've made it pretty damn clear for awhile that you consider yourself my intellectual superior, and I'm tired of the shit. I don't want you on my blog. I don't demand your respect, but I'd prefer if you just let me live in my world and you live in yours. I don't comment on your articles for this very reason.
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Fuzzy, you're an asshole. Goodbye.

You talk about life being about having fun, yet you're the most condescending, pompous piece of S*** I've seen. Welcome to the blacklist.

Damn...and I thought I was the 'most condescending, pompous piece of shit'.

I feel slighted now....

I don't call MS a monopoly....there's plenty in the EU to do that.

Now Apple is not one, either....it's more an autocracy as it allows no competition of any size.  You either buy a Mac or go without.  At least MS does not force hardware-choice upon the user.

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Don't forget, Gideon MacLeish, several topic/sections on JU cross-post to Wincustomize.com's forums...so like it or not your blogs will be more widely read/responded-to than would otherwise be the case....

 

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Now Apple is not one, either....it's more an autocracy as it allows no competition of any size. You either buy a Mac or go without. At least MS does not force hardware-choice upon the user.


Exactly.

If Mac put out an O/S that ran on a PC, I'd honestly give it a look. But they don't so I won't be touching Macs anytime soon!

Damn...and I thought I was the 'most condescending, pompous piece of shit'.


Not by a longshot, Jafo...lol!

My beef with Fuzzy goes back to a comment I had made earlier in my computer schooling. Instead of simply offering up his viewpoint, Fuzzy felt that it was his duty to ridicule me while correcting my information. I took it personally and, honestly, I'd rather not see the guy around on my blog. But until they fix the glitch on blacklisted users being able to respond in the forums, I guess I'm stuck with him.
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If Mac put out an O/S that ran on a PC, I'd honestly give it a look. But they don't so I won't be touching Macs anytime soon!

I agree whole-heartedly.

My issue is with this myopic restriction of hardware....clearly due to the OS's inability to cope with differences even as well as the MS OS's do/don't.

People complain about not being able to buy a PC without an MS OS installed....that's sheer bull....anyone can build his own, anyway....but think about not being able to buy [and then run] an OS UNLESS you also buy a specific brand of hardware....that's so draconian it's bordering on 'evil'....

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People complain about not being able to buy a PC without an MS OS installed....that's sheer bull....anyone can build his own, anyway....but think about not being able to buy [and then run] an OS UNLESS you also buy a specific brand of hardware....that's so draconian it's bordering on 'evil'....


I agree...and I haven't tried it, but I'd bet if you talked with the "big boxes", you could probably have your computer shipped without the O/S.

And you could always strip the O/S. While I don't specifically endorse it, I don't think you'd have a hard time finding a buyer for that key.

I'm getting enough requests for builds that I'm seriously taking a look at software bundles. I'm not ready to build a Linux machine for someone unless I know they're ready for it, but I certainly would consider it, if the price was right.
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These kinds of blogs are nothing but an excuse to get a fight started. Useless crap meant to give people a way to spout their "right" view at someone else's "wrong" view about things that most people who have a brain wouldn't waste their time on.

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These kinds of blogs are nothing but an excuse to get a fight started. Useless crap meant to give people a way to spout their "right" view at someone else's "wrong" view about things that most people who have a brain wouldn't waste their time on.


boss,

No, my purpose in writing this had nothing to do with "getting a fight started". I was offering my view, plain and simple.

And my point is: Yes, MS is a pain in the keester. But they hardly have a monopoly on that. Mac denies you hardware choices, and Linux denies you the "full package" that both offer (although they are narrowing the gap). Mac has enough weaknesses that they really don't have a superior platform on which to stand.
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ah well, time to go back to DOS, hey does anyone know if i can skin that? maybe some colored text? maybe i could just not plug my video cable in all the way so everything is blue?
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Wozniac to Jobs: Hey, let's invent a home computer system that will revolutionize the industry.

Jobs: Cool idea, then let's limit access to our product and software.

Wozniac: Wow, what a cool business model... I bet we could get like, 13% of the market share doing that.

Jobs: 13% WOWEE! Who could possibly top that!

Gates: Hey guys, I couldn't help but overhear you, I think that is a great idea... you really should go for it. Oh btw, can you tell me about GUIs and Upgrades again? (Evil Grin)
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ah well, time to go back to DOS, hey does anyone know if i can skin that? maybe some colored text? maybe i could just not plug my video cable in all the way so everything is blue?


OK, that gave me my best laugh all night. That's just hilarious. I may have to use the U/N "DOS_Skinner" in the future...lol
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Wozniac to Jobs: Hey, let's invent a home computer system that will revolutionize the industry.

Jobs: Cool idea, then let's limit access to our product and software.

Wozniac: Wow, what a cool business model... I bet we could get like, 13% of the market share doing that.

Jobs: 13% WOWEE! Who could possibly top that!

Gates: Hey guys, I couldn't help but overhear you, I think that is a great idea... you really should go for it. Oh btw, can you tell me about GUIs and Upgrades again? (Evil Grin)


LOL
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hey does anyone know if i can skin that? maybe some colored text?

Jafo was a sad bastard who used ASCII codes to 'skin' the Dos prompt....

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I did it too. I was win 3.11/dos user too. 95% dos. Windows was to play card game and other windows-only games.