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Paying for individual WB's

Paying for individual WB's

I've been wondering about the thoughts and experiences of others regarding paying for individual WB skins. Are you finding aspects of the skins not skinning properly or as expected? And, why is there no download/purchase stats being posted per skin, as there are with all others?

Seems even the best skinners struggle with building perfect skins. The one I am using now is named "StealthOS", a great skin, and IMO by one of the best skinners, yet, the start panel text "Turn off Computer" falls off the panel, while 2 of his other skins appear as they should.

So far, only a few appear to properly skin all aspects of the applications I run; like Sean Grey's "Digital Grey."  However, that same skin becomes annoying as my mouse passes over the text on the Start-menu panel because all listings highlight. His "Chocolate", which is a great skin, however it to has problems with text falling off the start panel, and those things shouldn't happen.  Other skins fail to skin check boxes, eliminating the check box choice altogether making the skin worthless in a few applications.

Even though these problems seems sporadic per skin, I seldom find the perfectly complete skin.  I just downloaded Stardocks "Stargate SG-1" skin to find it's "Turn off Computer" is almost non-existent, I  deleted it.

No disrespect meant to hardworking skinners, cause many do a good job. But, I just won't pay for an unfinished product, no matter what it is.

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Reply #51 Top
TitanI9, I hate to even say this but.. I never got an email from you.

Perhaps you can try one more time or post it here using Imageshack or Photobucket.
Reply #52 Top
I am in my late 50's, rude little boy should go to his room...



TitanI9
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Male, 23, United States
Reply #53 Top
TitanI9
TitanI9's Info
Male, 23, United States


The Plot thickens   
Reply #54 Top
Guys, let's be real careful here not to be attacking other members.  There is a good discussion here that can lead to system improvements if we let it.

If someone is being a rude ass, maybe it's better not to feed the troll. Ya dig?
{and yes, I am aware that I chucked a few peanuts at the troll too.  I was wrong-ish}
Reply #55 Top
  okie doke.

waits for some form of graphical illustration of the problem*
Reply #56 Top
chucked a few peanuts at the troll


Jeez that's so hard not to do when someone keeps poking their finger in your eye as you're trying to help...

Reply #57 Top
Jeez that's so hard not to do when someone keeps poking their finger in your eye as you're trying to help.
Agreed . . so my best response is not to help   
Reply #58 Top
I am in my late 50's, rude little boy should go to his room...


So why lie about your age on your profile page? No more from me. You aren't worth it.  
Reply #59 Top
I didn't put the 23 years listed ... U assume... NEVER visited that page either, until a few moments ago; and now it's updated.


Reply #60 Top
Perhaps you can try one more time


Just forwarded to [email address removed by Admin], 2nd time.
Reply #61 Top
Got it, yeah, I see what you mean now, and I can see your concern..

However, as you can see the the problem is the buttons, in THIS particularly designed logoff panel just wont fit.. even if I moved the content margins over some the Undock button would be floading in empty space and covering up the Skinbrandz image.

If you would like to know how to fix it..for your own personal use..or any other theme giving you this same problem.. just cut and paste the gold part of the menu to go all the way across to the left. Then, adjust the left and right content margins for the Start Panel > Bottom bar image to the left until all the buttons fit on the panel. Simple as that.

As said previously , in designing Windowblinds that are more artistic in nature, more outside the dafault shapes of XP then sometimes sacrifices have to be made in other areas to accomodate it. The undock button is by no means the only area of windows that suffers for the sake of artistic license.

I will keep this issue in mind in newer themes though now that I'm aware of it.

Hope this helped you.
Reply #62 Top
The only thing I wish more skinners skinned was the hover image on the "All Programs" button. It wouldn't take that much longer to skin would it?


Read 'A Complete Guide to the Start Panel: Pt 2' and see section #5
WWW Link

Hope that helps explain that part at least.
Reply #63 Top
I know this section of the discussion happened earlier but I thought I would add something: laptops will only show the undock button if the machine is actually hooked up to a docking station, if it isn't attached to a docking station, no undock button will appear (regardless if the machine is hooked up to a network or not, os appearance for a machine hooked up to a network only changes if the machine logs on to a network domain; if the machine is not a member of a network domain, the default setting for the machine is to be hooked up to a network "workgroup" which allows the user to see the welcome screen which can be skinned using logonstudio, allows fast user switching, and the start menu user pane area will show the user account picture,etc. Machines hooked up to a network domain do not have these options).

The hibernate button will only be shown on machines where the hibernation option is enabled, I don't enable hibernation on my machines and therefore I won't see it. If you have hibernation enabled on your machine, you may see a hibernation button.

Reply #64 Top
Thx unclerob for clarifying that
Reply #65 Top
Thanks unclerob... I was planning on explaining that as well, but to many distractions at work the last two days.

As a business owner, 100% of the hardware PO's I sign are for laptops and it's been that way for sometime due to the staff mobility. That's true as well with many of our software vendor clients; not so with IT staff of course.

But, here it appears as though many skinners are working on desktops... are there special reasons for that choice "anybody?"


To Admin... why did you remove the email address I posted? Are profiles open for public viewing and are these forums made public? The only reason I posted his email was it's listed openly on his profile; otherwise, I know better.

Reply #66 Top
lol...geez.. thanks for thanking me   Good luck with your search for a perfect skin.

Its common etiquette not to post peoples email's on public forums, and probably against the rules too.   
Reply #68 Top
thanks for thanking me
It would have been nice if you waited for me to respond as I see fit... but, no... Course, that also fits with your misleading assumptions regarding my intent and your skin. By the way, I am not "searching" for the perfect "free" skin. I said I won't "pay" for skins that don't work completely or properly on my computer. Oh, the detail on your skin was outstanding.

Its common etiquette not to post peoples email's on public forums, and probably against the rules too.


I know that - but you kept asking and your email was posted openly on your profile?

spambots aren't your friend
I know... Reason I asked those questions of the Admin. To see if this forum and profiles are public.
Reply #69 Top
I know that - but you kept asking and your email was posted openly on your profile?


I didnt ask you to post my email. and as far as waiting.. you thanked the person that posted after me so your explanation holds no water.

Look, doesn't really matter to me..Im not one for trolling and you don't have to get defensive and explanitory.

Glad I could help you.

Ciao.
Reply #70 Top
it's better not to feed the troll.


Reply #71 Top

I know... Reason I asked those questions of the Admin. To see if this forum and profiles are public.

If a person has his email accessible on the site it remains something he personally is in control of. [yes, I know...bad grammar].

If, however it's posted eslewhere...eg on the forum...by a third party...it's something outside his control...and becomes an issue addressible only by an Admin, hence its removal....

Reply #72 Top
skinners gotta eat too, and if they put so much time and effort into their creations i don't see why they should not be paid for it.

by the way vstyler, stargate is a fantastic skin and works beautifully on my computer
you are an artist, please make more mate