Girls that play RTS?

I've dated a few gamer girls and I hang out with a few and chat with a few online. What really puzzels me is that none of them play RTS games, does anyone else see this as strange? I am guessing the whole sci-fi war thing is what turns them off...
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I know several girls (wow, its weird putting them in a category like that, like they're a separate group) who play RTS's but none of them are sci-fi strategies, mostly bog standard WW2 era stuff though.

Funny story, I was horribly killed playing Halo 2 the other day, seriously, a cracking shot straight through a crowded room got me right in the temple, perfect headshot, ultimate skill, and over the intercom came a female voice...dammit...does this make them better gamers than us*?








*nope, guys rule, end of story
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Morgan from X-play is hot.


just thought that I'd throw that in there.
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Well i lived with a girl for 3 years, who played Warcraft 2/3, Starcraft, Settlers 3, civilisation 2.

Her favorit was diablo 2, she was the paladin and i was the Amazone archer (thats where i made the name Multianna, since the amazon could shot multi arrows)

In settlers 2, i had to loss a few times to make her keep playing

But in civilisation 2, she kick my ... so much hehe.

But in general, i think girls dont like playing games at all...

btw how you guys seen the Battlestations: Midway Sneak Peek on gamespot?
In the studio there was 2 ppl who played the demo, 1 of them was a girl, and she wiped his base in notime haha.

So if girls starts to play more, do we guys need to feel threatened?

btw2 Blair said in another tread. That they had a girl playing sins and she was quite good
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generally most girls have an extreme aversion to video games, it's a "guy thing".

but the girls that do play are usually extremely skilled... and scary...
so I think it attracts the really skilled girls, which is why we get dominated.
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I believe it really depends on the genre...if more games like the Sims, Singles, Glory of the roman Empire etc were released (games with human interaction, society simulation) more girls would play...the market has been too much oriented on warfare and boys/men

generally most girls have an extreme aversion to blood and violence   
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so I think it attracts the really skilled girls, which is why we get dominated


Don't let them distract you with their feminine wiles!

We seem to be presenting a very one sided point of view...girls are to be feared, what are we, nerds*? Remember, the bigger they are the harder they fall, in a male vs female game of Capture the flag in Halo 2, we came out on top (barely(I take all the credit   )).

Maybe they're no better than us but we just get surprised when a girl pulls off a distinctly amazing move in a game that we blow it out of proportion because we are not used to it.






*yes
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Well I've yet to get my butt kicked in any online game by any girl... at least to my knowledge. My EX used to play the sims 2 all the time but not many other PC games, thats why I was wondering what everyone else's thoughts were.

I get my ass kicked by my female boss at work enough, I fear the day I will get it kicked online too...

I warn you all now, my little niece plays her DS and Wii daily. She seems to like that advanced wars game and animal crossing. She will be an uber gamer girl one day, and we shall all be pwned much by her leet skillz, at that time I'll resort to playing solitaire against my computer... I guess.
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am guessing the whole sci-fi war thing is what turns them off


It's a weird thing with sci-fi, it seems to be going into a bit of a recession in America, with SG-1 and Enterprise being canned, BSG's ratings dipping (now going up again, phew) Lost's ratings dropping etc etc while it seems to be entering sort of a renaissance in the UK, with the return of Doctor Who after 16 years, it is fashionable again, and all other networks are starting their own homebrewed sci-fi, Doctor Who gots its first spin off (
Torchwood) after just two seasons of the renewed series which must be a record or something.

warn you all now, my little niece plays her DS and Wii daily


Fortunately I can still beat my twelve year old cousins (twins) on the 360 as well as PS2 and PC, but I have noticed I need to work harder and harder for every victory.

My mother can actually beat me at Worms, every time. >Hangs head in shame<

I kick her a$$ at Halo though.

I think this sums up the mother/son gaming relationship well.
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girls are to be feared

no...
girls are to be revered!
*yes

your damn straight.
and proud of it.
warn you all now, my little niece plays her DS and Wii daily. She seems to like that advanced wars game and animal crossing. She will be an uber gamer girl one day, and we shall all be pwned much by her leet skillz

it is destiny  
its in her blood!  
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girls play and a lot but no rts, they play fps or sims or a lot of nintendo gay games.(real men play with rts or rgp
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A lot of girls I know have very good reflexes, it gets very annoying trying to beet them in shooter games sometimes.

However, in starategy games, from what I have seen they get a little too bored and frustrated sometimes to really appreciate the game.

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There are a couple of gamerchicks in HG. They play Homeworld. And they're both good.
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I have been playing with girls in various gaming clans, and tend to see some playing strategy games like Warcraft, Dawn of War, Homeworld, etc. On the other hand, considering how perverted some males can be, would you really announce yourself as a girl in a game?

There was more then a few instances in some clans where I had to punish members for harassing the female members. Of course, cannot handle those that figure out outside the clans, which sometimes forces them to change names and hide their sex.
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Girls cant find the directions to the enemy base - they suck at rts!
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Yah, there are lots of girls that are awesome at games, even RTSs. But what I don't understand is why my dog won't play them. He's a straight-up hardcore FPSer. Even puzzle games, occasionally when they involve food, but never RTS. What gives?

I figured dogs/space games would be a great match, after all, they were up in space before we were right?
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Yeah, P5y, but the girls DO pull over and ask for directions

as for girl gamers, dated one some year and a half ago, and she would kick my ass in Quake3 about 2 out of 3 times. (which would lead to me being rediculed at every lan party), then again, i'd beat her with just about every tactical shooter (close call) and RTS (massacre).

why? I guess the FPS thing is reflexes, and the tactical thing is the male brain being more apt at finding your way (hunting wooly mammoths and such)

as for RTS, I'm guessing guys play them because we like them, becuase we're naturally good at them (hunting mammoth mk2's and such)

Now what we need is a gril RTS player to totally tear that argument to shreds. I still can't stand loosing to a girl with any game (or sport i do) call it a macho male thing.


ps, I can beat my ex in Quake3 now though. MEN RULE
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whats interesting is that study indicates a severe difference in the psyche of men and women.
supposedly men are very tunnelminded, narrow and focused on one particular objective, wheras women are more wholeminded. which is interesting and in blatant contradiction to our RTS // FPS comparison.
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Its not one thing or the other, theres always a mix of the general characteristics. Womes nerves are even wired differently. They can pick certain frequencies of sound better than men, and generally their reflexes are faster in needed situations, as well as the fact that they have greater adreniline storage.

Yes, I guess we are different
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but the wholemindedness theory would lend itself towards women being better at RTSs. I know myself that I make really stupid errors in leaving one gap open thats easily exploited.

and besides, what does sound frequencies have to do with it...
as well as the fact that they have greater adreniline storage.

yes, but males release faster and get a far larger jolt out of it.
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Yes, men and women are very different.

Thank God for that!
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but the wholemindedness theory would lend itself towards women being better at RTSs


I suppose you could look at it like RTS games can involve singular objectives, gather resources and storm enemy base and thus are more male suited, whereas as in an FPS you need to quickly gauge the layout of your environment (which is what tribal women did, scout the local area for firewood) and analyse cover/angles etc. I guess men are better at games where there is something specific to kill/defend, whereas as women could be better at FPS due to their ability to take in an environment quickly.

It may also be because that though men are narrow minded, we are very tactical, I doubt our tribal forebears would have charged a wooly mammoth without a plan of attack.

That's one way to look at it.

It is however a fact that men think in distance and direction, and thus may conceivably be better at RTS related things, like directing armies etc, whereas women take into account landmarks and remember places (cover, snipe spots) better.
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Yes, men and women are very different.

saves us the confusion in looking for dates. (does anyone other than yours truly find the similarity between "date" and "mate" to be odd...)
I suppose you could look at it like RTS games can involve singular objectives, gather resources and storm enemy base and thus are more male suited

what sucks is that most games are designed such. rather than the better, more interesting strategy base.
It is however a fact that men think in distance and direction, and thus may conceivably be better at RTS related things, like directing armies etc, whereas women take into account landmarks and remember places (cover, snipe spots) better.

or maybe all of this has NOTHING to do with any of it!
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what sucks is that most games are designed such.


I suppose we'd (men) also be good at the more economic/management games (Sins), of which I'm assuming your more "interesting strategy base" refers to, because we tend to think very analytically and logically (any women reading this can keep their snide remarks to themselves its true), and thus will be better at moving money around as well as organising battles. Women are slightly more...scatter brained (sorry girls) in that they think of multiple scenarios at once (like dual core threading) and attempt to plan ahead, thus they have much less focus which is a disadvantage in things like GC2 (sorry Carielf) and, I'm assuming, Sins.

or maybe all of this has NOTHING to do with any of it!


Sure you say that but every girl I've played at SupCom I've beaten hands down, I actually feel embarassed for them >smug<. Normally this is because their army is disorganised and ends up charging at me, whereas I like to step back, and examine more surgical, less obvious routes to take. One particular game my opponent seemed to demonstrate a lack of knowledge to exactly how long it would take for her army to go all the way round the edge of the map, instead of just cutting across water. In a three way game, the male players attacks on my base were more successful because of greater cohesion and tactics, whereas the female opponent just threw things at me and hoped for the best.




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Sure you say that but every girl I've played at SupCom I've beaten hands down,

maybe you just spend too much time.
I actually feel embarassed for them >smug<. Normally this is because their army is disorganised and ends up charging at me, whereas I like to step back, and examine more surgical, less obvious routes to take. One particular game my opponent seemed to demonstrate a lack of knowledge to exactly how long it would take for her army to go all the way round the edge of the map, instead of just cutting across water. In a three way game, the male players attacks on my base were more successful because of greater cohesion and tactics

the question is is it causation or simply corrolation?
perhaps women just play less. maybe its that they just dont like RTSs for whatever reason.
then again, it could be because of whatever cognitive differences.
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Well yesterday on my day off, I tried to get my girlfriend to play the new CnC3 demo, she did pretty good and beat the Easy AI in skirmish playing as the CGI, but she didn't seem too interested in it over all, she sorta liked the single player story, so my hope is once I get the game and let her try the single player story she'll get addicted.