Gotta Love Microsoft!

from JoeUser Forums

Today I went to a tech net Briefing.  It was supposed to be on  AD Security AND Exchange.  It turned out to be almost all exchange!  As our exchange is hosted off site by another organization (long convoluted story there), I cannot say it really applied and I would not have gone if I had known.  But in a way, I am glad I did.

Exchange 2007 is a spammers nightmare, and Big Brother's Dream!

They have separated the parts so that you can actually build in 3 layers of spam protection BEFORE Outlook 2003 (or the next version) even has to deal with it.  And that is good.  They bought several small anti-spam companies and integrated those filters into the product.  I was impressed.

And before going to the next part, I will say they have a lot of other nice features if you are interested.

BUT!  Big Brother is watching you!  They have migrated the Outlook Rules to the server (outlook still has them).  These rules are almost identical to the Outlook ones we all know and (love to hate), but they have some neat little 1984 ones as well!

You can set rules to prevent some users from sending or receiving mail from certain users and/or domains (Good bye Ebay notifications).  But even more sneaky?  You can flag someone's mail so that any message they send, you will be BCCed on!  Oh, how I would love to do some practical jokes with that one! (Maybe that is why they moved it off site? J/K).

Yes, Exchange 2007 is not an incremental upgrade over 2003, it is a huge one.  And most of it very good. I like most of what I saw.  But for those whose organizations are going to it, I have one bit of advice.  Suck up to the Exchange Admin!  or your latest love letters may wind up on a BB on the internet!

That part I really dont like.  But then, as they say, your Company Email is not private, and you have no expectation of privacy in that regard.  And microsoft just dotted that I.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

I see the words, and I understand them individually...but all together all I hear is "blah blah blah blah."

HAHAHAH.

Other than it being about Microsoft and outlook, I didn't understand any of this.

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Other than it being about Microsoft and outlook, I didn't understand any of this.


I got that email at your place of work is not private.   but that is about all    hey doc what you gonna do with pc dunderheads like us?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think even when we consider a move to 2007 we will still employ an outsourced spam and virus filter. For $.10 per user, per day, I don't have to even bother.

I would love to take advantage of the Mobile benifits of an upgrade though. Sadly, I think we will use 2000 to the end of it's cycle.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

Other than it being about Microsoft and outlook, I didn't understand any of this.

AH!  A normal person! !

It is a geek article.  Basically, MS has just made your boss' job of spying on you a lot easier!

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

hey doc what you gonna do with pc dunderheads like us?

Bless you!  Otherswise, I would be out of a job.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

I think even when we consider a move to 2007 we will still employ an outsourced spam and virus filter. For $.10 per user, per day, I don't have to even bother.

Well, I did not give you the gotcha.  If you get the Enterprise version (most companies do not need it now), you get the whole kit and kaboodle.  But the standard version?  (I suspect you are in that group) only gets a subset and they told us "buy add ons or go with 3rd parties".  So yea, that is your route.  But then again, spying on your boss......hehehehe  Now that is evil!  And they will never know.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

I got every word of it ... neener neener neener

No, it is "nerdy nerdy nerdy".

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I can understand the need to eliminate as much of the spam as possible for security reasons and to save on time and bandwidth, but the whole spying on employees' emails just bugs me. True, they aren't supposed to be private, but it shows a marked lack of trust which would really bother me as an employee.

I can even understand hosting it off site in one sense, but I guess I might be a control freak as I would rather have my resources under my control and not trust them to a third party. But I know that it's cheaper to do so which is why those types of decisions are made. It would just bug me.

Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I would love to move to an MS Exchange platform, my employer is stuck on Lotus notes. And not even an up-to-date version. The end users are still on version 5. The servers are somewhere in Canada, and the spam filters, while keeping out a fair amount of spam, seem to be more efficient at blocking legitimate customer emails.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

can even understand hosting it off site in one sense,

Oops!  You saw the same technet.  yea that is one option MS is offering those who cant afford a full blown Email shop.  Ala the AV vendors solutions.  That one is not sitting well with Symantec and McAfee!

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

The end users are still on version 5.

Version 5?  I did a Groupwise 4.1x to Notes 5 conversion 6 years ago!  Need some cobweb spray?

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
That one is not sitting well with Symantec and McAfee!


I can well imagine.
Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Need some cobweb spray?


A new Exchange server would be nice!

At least Office 2K3 has an Outlook frontend for Lotus.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree with Mason, the Email part just bothers me too. And being copied on someone's outgoing without them knowing? Now that's sneaky and talk about big brother!
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

At least Office 2K3 has an Outlook frontend for Lotus.

That was the best upgrade of Outlook since 97 went to 2k (forget 98).

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

I agree with Mason, the Email part just bothers me too. And being copied on someone's outgoing without them knowing? Now that's sneaky and talk about big brother!

It is.  But if your shop uses Exchange, then be forewarned.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
But then again, spying on your boss......hehehehe Now that is evil! And they will never know.


That's why it's good to be the system administrator.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

That's why it's good to be the system administrator.

It's good to be the king.