How much are you worth?

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Today I was approached by the father of my son’s friend.  I will call him D.

D asked me if I’d be interested in keeping his son for about 7-9 days in September.  He is selling a house in , and his wife will be out of town as well doing something else.

He doesn’t want to pull his son out of school for a week.  (The second week of school.)

This is the same kid I wrote about before and you really have to understand our history to help me with my question.

http://lifehappens.joeuser.com/index.asp?aid=91653

http://lifehappens.joeuser.com/index.asp?aid=92317

So D told me to come up with a number (meaning how much I will charge to keep his child for a week).

The day I pick the child up, my husband will be returning from a three week business trip in .  So the timing isn’t great but that’s ok I can swing it.

My question concerns payment.  How much do I charge?

The kid will be in school for 7 hours a day, 5 of those days.  The other two are on the weekend.  I will be feeding him, and teaching him all about personal hygiene.  Heh.  And probably making his life miserable, but I won’t charge for that, it’s on the house.  Hehe.

I joke because he gets unlimited internet and video game playing at home and my son isn’t allowed to do either during a school week.  And on the weekends he has to earn an hour of video/internet play by being physically active an hour.  Anyway, I am sure it will cause some issues at first, but will even out as the week progresses.

I don’t pay babysitters, as we don’t have any.  And I don’t usually charge a friend when watching her kids.  I have no idea what to charge and in all honesty I think D expected me to say, “Oh don’t worry about it.  I’ll do it for free.”

Not.

I asked my gal pal from high school, she puts her kids in daycare.  She did the figuring and said I should charge $400.  That seems like a lot to me.

So how much would you pay someone to keep your 10 year old son for 7-9 days during the school year while you were out of state?

 

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
$400 is not a lot, Tova. In fact, it's pretty low.

It amounts to less than $60 a day, not much more than minimum wage, really, when you consider you're "on call" through the night, and all of the possibilities tht could arise. It's about the cost of a fairly inexpensive hotel room for that same week.

If you think $400 is enough for those services, that would probably be a decent price. But I wouldn't offer to go any lower. If he makes a counter offer to you and it sounds fair, though, go for it.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

I just think when I say $400 he will think I am a nut job.

I don't get the impression they value child care.  Or that they think it is worth much.  They just let him go out of state to Florida for three weeks with people they don't know.

Oh well, I'll put it out there and see what he says. heh.  Should be interesting.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Meals, Lodging, Supervision.

I agree with Gid.  Go for $75 a day.  If they were your bossum buddies, I would go less, but given the history....

As my Wife says "This is strickly Business".

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

This is strictly Business".

Exactly what my husband says.

how much do you feel he can afford to pay without it being hardship?

That's the tricky part.  He is a hospital administrator and she is a nurse.  They bought and live in a historic old school house they are renovating.  They have 3 vehicles (jeep, monte carlo, extended cab truck) all probably less than five years old. 

When I drop my son off I see an old 1950 something car in their detached garage being redone.

The father is going to Florida to sell a home they own there.

Despite all that in my mind I see them as strapped for cash.  I guess because that's the only reason I want to believe that parents would leave a 9 (now 10) year old child alone so often.

I just talked to my husband, he is out of town.  He's not too fond of the idea.  He will be coming home after a 3 week Asian trip and doesn't want someone else's kid in the house.  But he says I can do it if I want.

how much would it take for you not to feel put upon or taken advantage of?

$200 is the cheapest I will do it.  I figure that will cover food and activities since he will be here over a weekend.

I want to help them out, even though I wrote a whole big article about not helping out people who work and ignore their kids. heh.  But at the same time I don't want to be taken advantage of and with these people I am never sure of that until after its happened.

I'll think on it some more.

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
My first thought is that if my husband was coming home after three weeks away I'd say no way. but if I decided to do it personally wouldn't do it for any less than $100 per day. I'm serious. If they can afford the toys they can afford you. And besides it makes up for all the free babysitting. They asked you. They must be serious about it.

I went back and read your other articles about this boy and his family. It's really pathetic. I have a friend with two kids who works full time and she can't handle being with her own kids. On three day weekends, by Satuday night she's calling me and telling me how happy she'll be to go back to work. It's pretty sad.

That said, in this respect I'm glad that I don't have kids because I think it would be hard for me to stay home and raise kids. AND I'm convinced that I would have had a better childhood if I had been in daycare. It's a tough choice nowadays.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

My first thought is that if my husband was coming home after three weeks away I'd say no way

HAHAHA.  Yeah I probably should feel that way, but he is gone all the time, usually a couple three weeks a month, so his coming home is more of a logistics problem than a "homecoming" one.

I have a friend with two kids who works full time and she can't handle being with her own kids. On three day weekends, by Saturday night she's calling me and telling me how happy she'll be to go back to work.

I have a couple friends like that too.  But they swear they couldn't raise their kids without losing their minds.  Some days I know EXACTLY what they mean. heh.

$100 a day! Well if I ever need a babysitting agent you are it sista!

Actually I will probably take the wimpy way out and let my husband do the negotiating.  I hate that part of any transaction and will gleefully give it to my husband whenever possible.  

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Some days I know EXACTLY what they mean. heh.


I have a lot of respect for women who take care of their children. It's hard work. Anyone that says it's not should be left with a sick two-year-old for a week

Heck I've been so mad at my dog that I've wanted to pick him up and shake him (course with was before my hysterectomy when I was on a wild PMS roller coaster - a huge other story but related to what my mother was going through when I was a child and she stayed home with me - not pleasant to say the least)
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's hard work


That is no joke. I considered myself a fairly strong woman, until I had kids.

Then they showed me how wrong I was.

I can't say its the best job I ever had, but its certainly not one I'd entrust to a stranger.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
DON'T do it for $200!

At least $400 and better off charging $100 like QOD suggested.

Ok, then again, I am a wimp when it comes to charging people $$$ but like Whip said, charge enough so that the whole thing doesn't make it a hardship for ya.

Best of luck, though.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

When my wife go out for an evening and leave our sons with a babysitter we pay the babysitter $10 per hour.

So on a typical date -- 6pm to 11pm that's $50.  So a week for $400 is very generous of you.

But I agree, if I were in your shoes, I'd charge $100 per day.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
When my wife go out for an evening and leave our sons with a babysitter we pay the babysitter $10 per hour.
So on a typical date -- 6pm to 11pm that's $50. So a week for $400 is very generous of you.
But I agree, if I were in your shoes, I'd charge $100 per day.


A few years ago, my wife and I went to a Christian marriage conference for the weekend. We paid the babysitter $200 for two days...and WE provided the meals. So QOD's $100 a day is very fair.

I think there's some merit to charging a daily rate and not a flat rate as well, Tova. From the sounds of it, this guy might decide to extend his absence if it's a flat rate, and by the time he gets back, you'll be worn out. Whatever daily rate you charge, for your own sanity, it would probably be best to keep it above $50 a day...$75-100 would be fairer, and extremely reasonable.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
DON'T do it for $200!


The more I think about it, the more this makes sense! hehe.

So on a typical date -- 6pm to 11pm that's $50. So a week for $400 is very generous of you.
But I agree, if I were in your shoes, I'd charge $100 per day.


Wow! Can I be your babysitter? hahaha.

Well you are a business man, so I am taking this advice to heart. Thank you.

think there's some merit to charging a daily rate and not a flat rate as well, Tova. From the sounds of it, this guy might decide to extend his absence if it's a flat rate, and by the time he gets back, you'll be worn out. Whatever daily rate you charge, for your own sanity, it would probably be best to keep it above $50 a day...$75-100 would be fair


Oh Gid, I didn't even think about THAT. hahahahaha. Yeah, I like the daily rate thing...I guess I wasn't sure about the days he's in school, it seemed a little greedy to want to be paid the same for those days as the days I have him all day no break.

My husband is stopping in this week on his way to Asia, I will talk to him about it...and I think a daily rate is the PERFECT way to go with this.

Thanks!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
$400 sounds good. Some people would charge even more. I think going with Gid's suggestion is better, charging on a daily basis. Especially since his dad or mom could get delayed or something. That or they get back in town and decide to stay away for another couple of days! Stranger things have happened!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

That or they get back in town and decide to stay away for another couple of days!

That is exactly something they'd do too....I'm gonna decide on a daily rate and stick with it.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

My husband just got off the phone with D.

He asked D what he was thinking to pay me for 9 days...a ballpark....D said, "well at least $100."

Told ya they didn't think child care was worth much.

When my hubby told him our daily rate he said he'd think about it and call us back.

Heh.  We'll see.

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

"well at least $100."

At least $100?  I was getting that rate 35 years ago for babysitting!

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

I was getting that rate 35 years ago for babysitting

Obviously they think watching a child is worthless.....that is why their child has so many issues.

Oh well...I think right now they are getting airline prices to see if I am cheaper than a ticket...heh....just barely.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yeah, based on the articles attached these parents sound strange and a little manipulative. $100.00 a day for them, someone nicer and more in tune I would charge nothing.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Stand firm Tonya, do not cave! They're still trying to use you!
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

I would charge nothing.

Well I don't think I'd ever do it for free unless there was a family emergency or something.

He just called back.  They agreed to our price...$500 and are bringing the check this weekend.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

They agreed to our price...$500 and are bringing the check this weekend.

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Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Latex is up!


What's that mean? You think I'm getting screwed? heh