... and I agree with Doc 100%!

Doc...it's neither uncommon nor particularly special.  'Mob rule' or what passes for rioting or political/social unrest ALWAYS has opportunists finding they can get away with something that would not be tolerated by ANYONE, no matter what country or 'political' faction.

Usually it's looting and/or vandalism, but you can be pretty bloody certain several of the collateral deaths, etc are simply 'now's our chance to get rid of someone we don't like...it's unlikely to be followed up'.

Reporters put themselves in the 'firing line' to either find news...or better still...be newsworthy themselves.  It's probably a mental affliction - a deathwish.

Our recent SAS VC recipient took out 2 machinegun emplacements to rescue a 'journalist'..... 

They stick themselves in dangerous places.... if they think this sort of thing isn't a possibility they are profoundly naive.  They also need to be aware that 'mob rule' pertains to EVERYONE, soldiers, police, rioters, even Journos.  She could as easily have been attacked by ANY of those groups.

There was in fact no difference to this criminal act than that which is perpetrated on women in Western society at the rate of once every few minutes...24/7.... other than the others are 'supposedly' under a controlled and Policed society, whereas this incident was during a period of social anarchy.

Neither is excusable....and neither will be solved by Military intervention...certainly not by what would be considered an invasionary force.

Would I like to remove the rapists' testicles and feed them to my cats?  Yes.  Would I condemn the whole mob/protest/country/people? No....

Of course it doesn't. I don't care what size or color socks (if any) they wore either. I want THE ONES WHO DID IT DEAD. I don't care if they wore Mets caps or tin foil helmets.

No. Effective: Yes.

Funny how you missed quoting how you contradicted yourself between #113 and #120. You miss that part of what I wrote?

You don't begin to know who I am, nor my values. When a mob gang rapes a woman, I don't sit around with one thumb up my arse and suck the other wondering the relative spin on electrons + or -. If you can, you get her the hell out of there and if you can't, you take out the max number the loudest way you can.

Boots on the ground? Yup. I fought in the 1973 war and in a bunch that had no official name... frightening? That was frightening. This? No. This (the woman and the mob) is disgusting and merits quick termination on the spot. There is no justification nor excuse for rape.

Jafo: Did I condemn more than those who perpetrated this crime? No. If it's 1, 10 or 200... the number is immaterial. The punishment and consequence of actions of prevention are what they are. The victim is to be protected. Victim: The female attacked. Perpetrators/s: Whoever and how many participated in the act. If none survive? Fine. If all survive to hang? Fine.

As for the rest of the mob (not participating in the gang rape) I couldn't care less: Nothing should happen to them as part of the prevention of the rape.I don't condemn the innocent, but I do not lose sleep over dead rapists.

 

Whichever group they sided with is partially responsible for their actions. However, it is impossible to assign that responsibility unless you know which group they were from. You see?

Of course it doesn't. I don't care what size or color socks (if any) they wore either. I want THE ONES WHO DID IT DEAD. I don't care if they wore Mets caps or tin foil helmets.


No. Effective: Yes.

Funny how you missed quoting how you contradicted yourself between #113 and #120. You miss that part of what I wrote?



You don't begin to know who I am, nor my values. When a mob gang rapes a woman, I don't sit around with one thumb up my arse and suck the other wondering the relative spin on electrons + or -. If you can, you get her the hell out of there and if you can't, you take out the max number the loudest way you can.

Boots on the ground? Yup. I fought in the 1973 war and in a bunch that had no official name... frightening? That was frightening. This? No. This (the woman and the mob) is disgusting and merits quick termination on the spot. There is no justification nor excuse for rape.


Jafo: Did I condemn more than those who perpetrated this crime? No. If it's 1, 10 or 200... the number is immaterial. The punishment and consequence of actions of prevention are what they are. The victim is to be protected. Victim: The female attacked. Perpetrators/s: Whoever and how many participated in the act. If none survive? Fine. If all survive to hang? Fine.

As for the rest of the mob (not participating in the gang rape) I couldn't care less: Nothing should happen to them as part of the prevention of the rape.I don't condemn the innocent, but I do not lose sleep over dead rapists.

I said too bad I wasn't there with my men. I didn't say "in uniform"..... I didn't say "too bad I couldn't organize an invasion". I've already been part of an invasion force in Egypt in 1973 as paratroop armored recon in Arik Sharon's Army Group. Don't wish to visit again. I said "If I were there..."n not "Wahoo, let's invade."

 

Tweet that sexist crap at 2 a.m. and then ask Nir Rosen to move over.

 

No journalist no matter how attractive can be blamed for having been gang raped by sub humans. Yes, they are killed in armed conflicts and can be the victims of "collateral damage". Sexual assault is a different matter. Physical assault is a different matter.

I know you don't mean to say, "She was asking for it." because she wasn't and because you don't think that way.

Nowhere did I say Egypt has a monopoly on this. I did say, "Too bad I wasn't there with my brothers in arms. We would have made very short work of it and no one would be a repeat offender."

Good night all.

China didn't want a kill switch so much as a 'filter reality' switch....and Google gave it to them.....

Money talks.

Not at all. I only posed scenarios...

 

Rapists are not "humans". Humans do not rape other humans. They are therefore "something else". OK..."Rock Spiders"-Is that more pleasing? (my apology to the actual rock spiders...they are what their rock spider mommies and daddies made them to be, and had no choice in the matter).

The 'kill switch' has nothing to do with terminating life. It was meant as a possible defensive method only. True, it might be a temptation for an up and coming dictator, but no one has told me yet how to prevent a 'lethal' cyberattack short of such a switch... If there's a better solution, I'm all for it.

Sub humans is so polite.   Rape has nothing to do with sex. 

You still don't seem to get it. The objective in that situation should not be revenge. It should be to eliminate the threat to the victim. You can do that with a simple "back off or I'll shoot", possibly, and if that doesn't work deliver a swift kick in some fleshy area. Then shoot- not to kill, but just to put the guy in a position where he can't make any more trouble for a while. That way, it's more clear to the nearby crowd that you are attacking the guy because he's a creep and a rapist, allows you to make sure that there is actually a gang-rape situation going on, and you get a real live rapist to parade around in front of the TV cameras for a while.

Going in guns blazing just makes it more likely that you'll hit the victim, some innocent bystander, or some other guy trying to help, not to mention the fact that you've just shot someone in a mob full of angry anti-government protesters. And if it turns out that you're mistaken and there really isn't an assault in progress, just some suspicious-looking jostling, well, then you've just shot an innocent man- and what does that make you?

That's exactly the problem with today's military. They just don't understand that sometimes less force is more effective.

Killing the net for any period of time.

I don't think so. Egypt and Libya have done it (not to protect, rather to suppress), and in 2003 the net was seriously compromised by the Slammer Worm.

Others?  http://www.techvista.org/10-worst-computer-virus.html

 

http://drjbhl.joeuser.com/article/405247/Thats_Impossible

inappropriate. Gay people had nothing to do with this violence and shouldn't be used as a token of "punishment". They really deserve better, don't you think?

That is beyond 'wrong'. That is 'Just plain really wrong'. And reprehensible. So, violence to a human isn't newsworthy? How many does it take, then? Just so I get an idea of the value of a human.

Oh. I get it. "She knew the dangers so she deserved it.". Great. Blame the victim.

Probably because I'm so stupid. I have fought in wars, and if you think your nicely planned out scenario works, take it out for a spin. And just why would I feel the need to keep a rapist or 100 of them alive? What they do isn't called "parading" and I have NO desire to see what they actually do.

Again: I didn't say to go in guns blazing. That's what you THINK I said. I said If I and my platoon were there, it would have had a radically different outcome. And that the victim would not have become the victim. That slime loses its courage looking down the barrel of a M16 or Tabor. And if they don't? So much the better. More O2 and food around for me and mine.

The given was that IT DID HAPPEN. Therefore the ones who perpetrated it are NOT innocent. The problem with today's military is that people who haven't stood in combat boots nor stood in harm's way for their countrymen sit around being arm chair Generals. Why not volunteer for the military? See what it's like before you judge its shortcomings?

 

define lethal please

Oh i thought you ment it the other way around in the beginning- true this would be leathal since crowds of raged people would go out there and that wouldnt be so nice to watch.


IIf there is anything lethal that could happen please explain what…also if they take the public net down...they would have to keep it down because as soon as it reboots the danger would be there again...


I understand how the slammer worm works but the whole idea isnt that easy to acomplish it would take infected provider-servers for the first, a router household that is infected cannot simply go to a diffrent router spot without having access to the actuall provider this would afford keys to send data from one spot to another and effect it.That sort of infectition would need the source to infect the routers quickly as possible since like in germany there is such a thing as hotline were you can call to check these issues also you would be able to see for yourself with a little knowledge if you can actually send packages and view that by send and loss statistics it would take time to define the actuall infection but this is nothing serious in my eyes. It would be more serious if something came through and made his way to some inportant server stations.Also i cant see any profit in doing such a thing for the attacker.so for me personaly this is unlikely to happen .Also this couldnt be stopped completely with shutting down the net since routers operate via cables that end at a powerstation the closet kind of lookin things wich are powered by electricity the virus/worm  could keep spreading once effected the provider. A shutdown would only minimize the threat not solve it.And taking this whole idea further,,, cutting electricity sounds more like a sort of internal firesale to me.So this plan would be more selfdestructing than saving.And the benefit of pulling something like this would be more likely to have a reason for for the public and military to claim war on other countrys without anyone knowing whats going on and who to blame...


i couldnt think of a better punishment, locking them up would be better ?


Of course it is worthy to mention but not to hype! Im just saying that this happens all around the world each DAY ! And while they report over a raped person another rape happens right away... the fact that they even make a report over such things is viewer quotes sadly.
All i tryd to say i there is kids starving to death each day why dont you see reports over them...the viewer isnt interested quotes would drop
Our media is full of nonsense its even corrupt sometimes to tell you a diffrent sort of story that actually happend just to push things up a notch.




Im not blaming her i just think that she isnt the only person in the world that suffered a rape, sadly we cant change what happend.Also i dont want to fight argument over this ,this is off course something NO human should do especially if your a male.
 

Despite what the media would have you think, every little genuine, heartfelt good thing you do has an effect on the world as a whole, even if you can't see it from a macro level.  If you do something good for someone they appreciate it, *and* they can often be more able (and want) to do good things for other people too.  Every little drop adds up in the dam - the more there are, the better. (Although in Australia we've either been getting too much rain (floods) or not enough, hmm...)

Best regards,
Steven.