This is great. The game needs more "persistant" quests. The one I'm actually making now in spare time is from a Leatherworker to collect pelts from (wolves, currently) and turn them into leather armor for my Sovereign/Champions. Mostly proof-of-concept stuff while I figure out how stuff works. These kinds of quests are great.

Also please consider quests that are not guaranteed to appear. Quests that begin from a rare item drop from a rare monster, or quests that begin by finding a rare monster, or very rare adventuring tiles (it's not every game that you'd find a dragon lair or a portal to some demon dimension).

Furthermore, consider varying what can be awarded or required by quests. Quests that require a specific unit ("sacrifice this guy to get <x>"), quests that reward technologies (like a tile for wargs, but you have to do a quest to learn how to tame/ride them to unlock the research that allows you to build the improvement and harvest them for unit mounts), etc.

I'm thinking some 'class' specific passive abilities that effect groups or stationed cities.

• Adventurer- Discount- 20% cheaper items for sale from merchants (for history_adventurer)
• Bard- Entertain- +20% to city prestige
• Merchant- Trader- Generates +1G and adds +10-20% more G in city
• Inventor- Research- Generates +1 research and adds +10% more research in city
• Loremaster- Arcane Research- Generates +1 arcane research and +10% more arcane research in city
• Administrator- Govern- Generates +10% more G and +10% more research in city
• Farmer- Farming- Adds +1 food
• Miner- Mining- Generates +.5 metal per turn or +10% metal in city
• Swindler- Diplomacy- Used on another civilization's city and slowly adds diplomatic relations with their nation.

The objective is to give you a bonus for keeping these specialist inside your cities. However, its a small bonus and, most of all, optional. You can continue to send them out and exploring and fighting.

Could go into each history and add another little bonus too.

• Royalty- Royalty- +10% prestige and +10% G
• Assassin- Stealth- Unit can hide/go invisible.
• Thief- Rob- Unit can rob enemy cities of 10% of the cities Gildar/turn.
• Warlord- Military Training- Units in city are trained 20% quicker (better then Warrior).
• Warrior- Training- Units in city are trained 10% quicker or Security which adds +10% to city/fortified defense bonus.
• Hunter- Hunting- Passive combat bonus against animal units.
• Dungeon Master- ??- NO idea here.

Something to make each class, history, and ability more unique, meaningful, beneficial, and fun.

Can we make abilities already or not?

I think the Dragon needs Devour.

Giants could use Hurl - attempt to pick up a unit and throw them

Trample - Additional attack made while charging an enemy. Intended usage: for mounts trampling over infantry, etc

Knockback - knocks an enemy back one tile, if possible. If not possible, extra damage from colliding with whatever is behind them!

Blood Rage - unit gains HP every time they attack a unit. The ultimate in beserk fighting.

Harvest of Souls - unit gains HP from killing a unit. Ohhhhh, nasty wraiths.

Crippling Strike - attacks drain AP, preventing counter attacks

Hideous Visage - This unit is so terrifying even hardened souls dare not engage in combat with it. Morale penalty just for attacking it.

Brutal - every time this unit kills, it does so in a barbaric, brutal way designed to inspire fear in enemy soldiers. Morale penalty for each kill it makes, relative to the combat rating of whatever it just killed.

Acid Blood - units attacking this monster risk getting hit with gouts of acidic blood whenever they melee with it.

Rend - attack shatters armour, reducing defense

Shame to hear about the goodie huts. To be honest, most of my fun in Civilization came from exploring for goodie huts. I rarely played a game past 1000 AD.

I agree there, or at least a setting that's more than on/off. 

I would also like a resources setting, from little to abundant. Heck anything that spawns on a map should have these settings imo, unless it's hard coded into the map.

My thoughts:

Spells still need some work (I like the idea of one per tactical turn, maybe need some rebalancing then too of course.).

No more Goodie huts. No more Goodie... huts. Now. I spy a Major, major game-breaking problem with this. Say I am playing "Emperor Magnus Jeremiah Scott V, Earl of Cheese". I start out near No gold resource. I therefore get a piffling 0.6 gold per turn or something. I find a gold resource. I want to fund a city. But wait! I can't afford to fund a city! Where can i get the money? Goodie huts? No! From other players? Pah! They are not the fools. They shall leave me to die. So i either resign from the game or die a slow and painful goldless death of boredom and weakness.

Also, quests such as 'you must escort this chap to his estate'. I strongly feel if you are going to keep these, there should be scripted encounters. And at Least two different possibilites for 'that encounter', picked by a rng.

Possibiliy 1: The famed 'Warlock Edward Saxonite' finally catches up to your escort. He is his arch-enemy. You must fight him or surrender the escort.

I fight) Two options now.

I win. The chap i was escorting turns out to be an arch-criminal. I gain a little gold but lose diplomatic capital.

I win. The chap turns out to be uber rich. I gain heaps of gold at no cost.

I surrender him) Two options Now.

The Warlock thanks me and gives me the powerful "Staff of Rupert and the Strawberries."

The Warlock laughs, kills my escort and uses his corpse to summon "Steve, the spiffing zombie of doom". They both now attack my pitifully naive hero.

Possibility two:

You arrive at the estate. Something seems wrong. Your so-called 'escort' turns into a moustached vampire-zombie of doom.  He attacks your poor wee hero. If you defeat him you find a scroll on his body. It gives you the spell "summon fledgling vampire-zombie".

I think multi-path player-choice quests are the only way to go personally, unless you have something really rather interesting to offer in a quest. In terms of Interesting quest i mean, not reward.

this is a problem of the actual combat system

maybe ill make a post on this in the future but i dont like this much high RNG

basically a spell, ANY spellcan go from 0 to N

this is too much random, i hate it

there should be a small gap into spell dmg

Knockback  Units attacked by this unit are knocked back a tile.

Explosive.  Unit damages units in surrounding tiles when it is killed.

Tactician.  Friendly units in adjacent tiles get attack/defense bonus.

Elemental resistance/immunity, or to particular slashing/bludgeoning/piercing damage weapon ty (half damage/immune to damage type X)

Vulnerabilities; eg fragile takes extra damage from bludgeoning, flammable takes extra damage from fire damage, cold-blooded takes extra damage from ice damage.

Incorporeal Nomagical attacks do at most 1 damage.  (Immunity is too strong).

Animator.  Creates a weak skeleton unit each tactical combat turn. Or:

Reanimator.  Creates a weak skeleton on the map each time a unit dies (or each time a friendly unit dies).

Blink/teleport  Can move to any tile on the tactical map each turn.  [Either have this take up all its moves, which might be too weak, or all but 1 move.]

Sunder; damages opponent's weapon or armor when it strikes.

Slow reload; can only fire every second turn [Useful trait for balancing powerful siege units]

Inaccurate; you choose target tile for firing a projectile, but there is a chance it hit adjacent tiles instead, or hits the target and then bounces [think tabletop Warhammer]

Bravery; bonus against units that are stronger than it. 

Gargantuan; takes up 2 or 4 tiles.

Burrowing; goes under ground, at start of next turn pops up in a target tile.

Trail of ice/dust/flame Changes the terrain type to tundra/desert/lava as the unit walks around the map (think age of wonders)

Forestkin; attack/defesnse bonus in forests

Icekin; bonus in tundra

etc. for other terrain

Prospector.  Can prospect on a tile; small chance of discovering a resource.   [But might be too boring/ MM intensive.]

yea ... probably smaller gaps (not too small, but maybe Int/2 <-> 2(Int)) instead of 0 <-> 2(Int)

although 0 - Int/ N is probably acceptable if N is larger than 1

0 - Z(Int) is probably not acceptable imho if Z is larger than 1

A more adroit way would be for them to add the different armor types Frogboy talked about (i.e. Leather would have defense and armor against crushing/lightning/ice, but 0 or - against fire/piercing.

Then you could have certain spells with wider variances such as [Int/3 to Int*2] for say 'Thunderstrike' and more constant spells like Icebolt doing [Int*.66 to Int*1.33]

I like scooters's burrowing and Terrain bonus creature types!

I can imagine some badass dessert worm with both of those.

and ofcourse all the ones the same as mine!

I also like you starting to talk about weakness/vulnerbilities that some units may have.  I particullary see these being associated with some equipment, for example;

Short Sword of Vamprism- unit is healed for all damage it deals through melee, unit takes double damage from holy spells.

Mana Collector: Expend some multiple of mana (2x, 3x?) to store one additional mana over the spellcaster's Essence. (Trait could apply to both units and items?)

I'd like to see quests have a % chance to appear condition on them. That is I make a an "abandoned sorcery tower" tile and have a few of them appear on the map. Those could do things like this (I haven't had a chance to make quests yet due to work and Starcraft 2, so maybe it's already possible):

- 25% You find nothing

- 25% You find a tome

- 25% You find refugees using it as a makeshift refuge, who offer to join you and give you what they found

- 5% You find a map to an ancient buried ruin. Sending troops to dig it out (takes 10 turns) uncovers a reward.

- 5% You find a map to a cave with a treasure

- 5% You find a map with a cave to a treasure, but a dragon happens to already own that treasure

- 5% You find a tome with a powerful ritual. Spending essence and sacrificing a champion lets you complete the ritual, reanimating the champion as a Lich and giving him the "Raise Corpse" combat spell.

- 2.5% You find that the tower really contained a shard, and you gain control of the shard

- 2.5% The tower collapses when you try to enter it. Next time, check the stability of a crumbling ruin before wandering in! (You suffer a death and have to resurrect at town, but gain +1 wisdom for your experience.)

You could also make ones where every tile your sovereign moves over has a 0.01% chance to trigger something, or every city conquest has a 2% chance to start a quest (resistance leader that needs handling or some such).