yes i guess thats my point.

Here's to DG getting bigger and better, in the same way

At 3:05 in the vid is the reason why I don't think Demigod will last.

GPG doesn't seem to care at all.

Lets compare the old Starcraft and Demigod (my opinion):

Starcraft beta was like Demigod release or maybe Starcraft was better because they used the normal host-client connection.

Starcraft release was like Demigod today. Playable but many bugs, missing features and some balance issues.

Starcraft 1.08... possible Demigod 1.2 will be similar. At least both will have replays

The problem I see is that today games should be released like Starcraft was with patch ~1.10. All the features and problems were new to starcraft, but now they are known from other games. And, for example, replays are a must-have for online games today. (I guess that is the reason games get so expansive. SC2 have to be like SC is today and can't start new. (except rare bugs and small balance issues)).

If Starcraft would be like Demigod:

- There would be 2 Races with the promisse to add at least one Race after release.

- Units would only cost resources one time and would be free to summon again after cooldown is ready.

- Tournaments wouldn't be possible because every second match has a crash.

- No one would play online because  proxies make most onlinematches unplayable. So everyone would play LAN.

- Marines could build with 25% Speed of a SCV, could heal like a half Medic and would have a flamethrower attack with a 1% attack chance on hit.

- Protoss Carriers would be named Erebus and could heal their interceptors for 200HP/s for 10 seconds every 45 seconds.

I lul'd

tvp

Oh no don't get me wrong BLIZZARD is the KING, but considering "Stardock" on the GPG/Stardock mix i have a lot of confidence in them. Blizzard has the expirience and i know Demigod might never be "THE" competitive game as starcraft is now, but still i just wanted to demostrate to all the people that say that "Demigod should have this", "Demigod should have that" or "is too late for Demigod now" that the Kings of Kings started as a humble peasent too.

Considering the fact that Starcraft is of, if not the, greatest RTS game of all time as voted in the court of public opinion, comparing a three month old game to a ten year old behemoth and expecting semi-identical results is a little far fetched.

To be honest I think GPG will be the problem here.

Stardock has showed faith in all Products that wear their name and that they are willing to devote manpower and money for the success of their products.

It was an awsome work to remake the whole netcode in minimal time.

And that even if Demigod is more like GPGs game.

But GPG never talks with the community directly, which is essential with a competive multiplayer game like demigod.

Balancing, items, Skills thats all stuff that as to be discussed or at least there has to be a feedback on the player opinions.

Most of the minor problems come from GPGs part and not Stardocks parts imho.

The idol bugs was in since beta, sedna bug is still in, Balancing is done in absurd ways (take Unclean beasts nerf, he ways nerfed in any possible way but gopt spi+ooze buffed to the current OP form.).

And take Items & Heroes: The item system is flawed since beta too. Half of the items are useless or have stupid minor stats on it. 1% chances are still ingame.

And new demigods... this is not a singeplayer storymode game. It's competie multiplayer.

We don't need Demigods with a Tolkien worthy backstory, a 3 Month developed 3D Modell with motion capturing movement.

This game needs variety in it's Hero Roster. You can find a nice Background story and a nice visuall setting for every hero concept in retrospective. So it's imho very late to add 2 heros now. They should pull out 2 to 4 new additional heroes out in the next month after the releasxe of #9 and #10.

That way demigod would get some dynamic in its demigod cast. Add 4-6 more and you would finally get a great meta game.

What currently is done with demigod is not comparable to Starcraft.

What they currently do is to make the work that should have been done before release.

But like many said, I think thats how many games work these days

The optimal strategy of stacking HP isn't going to be changed by adding more demigods methinks.

A rethink and adjustment of about 50% of the items in the game is needed for there to be any strategic depth imo. Without any strategy there is no metagame.

Guys, Guys im not comparing the games, im comparing the situations, its not fair to say a game is bad so early on, its not fair either to say that a game should have  ceartain features and then dismiss those features as irelevant just because they should have come out from the start. GPG is not a bad company, they are no Blizzard but even so i think they can take care of Demigod, i don't think they are bad enough to pull a Left 4 Dead on us especially when all the promises has come from frogboy himself.

Edit: i've been waiting for something like this, since we are discussing balance changes in such a "non-falming way" i will just like to add, i belive Hp stacking is not Opm but that other Stakings are Underpower, also items are supposed to offer alternatives to eliminate your weaknesess or at least help you with those, they dont do that, i guess they are playing to conservative with the items. Also i would like to say Rook should get more armor and more HP ........ Just kidding ......... but seriously QoT and Rook while not underpower seem to lack that little spark that would make them what they are supposed to be, especially rook, to be a tank he dies quiet easly.