Premade as a gaming term came from WoW's BGs when players from the same server would enter a BG together. When there weren't enough of them to fill the team entirely that was called a partial premade, so I would say that you were a partial premade joining a no premade game, from what I've read (and I didn't read this whole thing).

In WoW when a partial premade with excellent gear and skill were in a BG they could easily have a more dramatic impact than a full premade premade with moderate skill/gear that was assembled because they needed a premade to balance out their other shortcomings.

So the point of a "no premade" game is to keep teams relatively balanced, and you have pretty good stats so I assume you were skilled enough to cause the imbalance that the game was made to prevent.

In 1.2 people's stats will be visible in game so hopefully people will just call games "balanced teams," "fair game," etc. and this'll be a moot point, because it seems like in that game they would have forced you to play against your buddy to keep teams even in the first place.

Let me know if you have any problem with these criteria for whether or not you should have said something in the game lobby:

• Are you in a game that is labeled in such a way that being in a premade game is discouraged?
• Might somebody interpret your Demigod playing relation with Towel as being a premade?

If those two conditions are met, you should have said something.

Poor sports and dishonest.

lol was wondering who was gonna take the bait...

Another winner. 

We went up against a clan I do not suggest you play against ever.  The host indicated in chat that he'd rather have a disconnect than a loss when his clan was losing.  Impressive.  I strongly recommend you don't ever play against them. 

Goddamn, is there seriously 3 pages of verbose discussion about something so, sooo minor [capn entropy vs. primal zed]?

well i don't know about you, but when i'm unjustly called dishonest and a bad sport I stand up for myself. Even if it was just some guys excuse to grow his own AI win e-peen...

It's T rated.

The term "premade" goes back to WoW.

Frogboy is part of the publisher.

You raise some good issues here... I think a Hall Of Shame thread is really a good idea as there are some really nasty people out there, and I think those people deserve to be Hall-of-Shamed... But when its for petty shit like "oh no he didn't say anything about premade in the lobby" or "he recommended I quit when our team had a leaver", it is exactly as you describe.. turning the community against itself.

If this thread isn't going to be adequately moderated (removing petty examples) then i agree, get rid of it...

All plz... let the entropy thing die.  It not that big a deal.  He was a bad sport in a single game.  He plays alot, I'm sure is a good asset to the community.  Silly.  No need to bust his chops.  Let's just move along and post some better examples, eh?

Stop this pointless witch hunt.  You guys are nuts - you are trolling a forum, just play the god damn game you paid $40 for and shut up.  I see that it is T-rated, big deal.  My point is even more valid, now.  People are not mature enough to be playing a game on the internet if they can't take things in stride, even less likely are they mature enough to play a game with a half-naked character if the previous statement is true with said player.

Oh, and Shade - I said RTS, not mindless grinds.  But that's another flamewar.

I am reminded of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos

edit 2.: What's your point about Frogboy?  You think I care?  I made my post to warn HIM specifically