Erebus is OP - end of story » Forum Post by GnomeChomp

hmm i think ill just watch this fight between u 2 i can't be arsed to interfer

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I wish I knew how to open a .DGreplay file... interesting you found it but so far as I'm aware DG doesn't have any kind of replay feature, but that could just be a conseqence of the total lack of documentation

I'm really not seeing Erebus as OP at the moment. Regulus, possibly, but that's debatable and mostly due to items anyway.

The same is probably true for the Erebus you saw waltzing through your base.

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[quote who="Extacide"]lololollollollolo god you're stupid[/quote]

This just proves your only here to troll. You will hopefully get over it once you get past the teenage years

Quoting TurielD,

I wish I knew how to open a .DGreplay file... interesting you found it but so far as I'm aware DG doesn't have any kind of replay feature, but that could just be a conseqence of the total lack of documentation

The replay future will be added later on, from what ive been told. So for now you can use this tool http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=405375

I'm really not seeing Erebus as OP at the moment. Regulus, possibly, but that's debatable and mostly due to items anyway.

The same is probably true for the Erebus you saw waltzing through your base.

That could possible be, which is why i added the replay, so that someone may be able to tell me what just happend

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i remeber one match i had i was killing so many demigods that i got to lvl 20 and they were lvl 4 it was so funny i was sitting at the enterance just pounding away and healing my self by killing them

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certain builds are ment for team matches, others for solo, and almost every DG has a skill thats pretty much a must use for whatever build u choose. erebus is less of a team fighter than oak and thats why i think Pentinance is better than bite.

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Quoting chris701,

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"Erebus is soft like butter. "

Nice hyperbole but wrong. Erebus is by far the easiest DG to keep alive, just use bite for more health or teleport out the area with bat swarm.

Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.

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Quoting VenomKing,

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Quoting chris701, reply 5"Erebus is soft like butter. "

Nice hyperbole but wrong. Erebus is by far the easiest DG to keep alive, just use bite for more health or teleport out the area with bat swarm.

Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.

It also drains 125 mana per second, chances are he won't have the mana for the cooldown he's waiting for.

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Quoting Xinoxlx,

reply 7

Quoting VenomKing, reply 6
Quoting chris701, reply 5"Erebus is soft like butter. "

Nice hyperbole but wrong. Erebus is by far the easiest DG to keep alive, just use bite for more health or teleport out the area with bat swarm.

Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.
It also drains 125 mana per second, chances are he won't have the mana for the cooldown he's waiting for.

true unless he gets a shitload of mana items then he could shit there for ages

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Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

This is the skill of the player, not the imbalance of the DG.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.

That also drains any mana to batform away, or to bite to stay alive. Mist forming Erebus's just give my team enough time to block him in all directions, and for me to continually charge my slam until he comes out and takes an instant 50% HP worth of damage, if not death.

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Quoting Extacide,

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Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

This is the skill of the player, not the imbalance of the DG.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.

That also drains any mana to batform away, or to bite to stay alive. Mist forming Erebus's just give my team enough time to block him in all directions, and for me to continually charge my slam until he comes out and takes an instant 50% HP worth of damage, if not death.

that is why you fight with someone who is good with stun u stun a rook whjile he is about to hammer he can't use it and i make my sedna ultra fast so i can get there to help quickly

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I can't speak much for online play, but if you base how broken someone is on that then its wrong. Realistically you should be basing it on a comparison of abilities what the abilities can do, and what you can do with them. Because all items are available to all demigods, the items do not at all need to be taken into account.

When I first played the game, Regulus was a tank, a beast, and amazing. I rememer me and a friend in a 2 vs 5 slaughter match, against all 5 nightmare opponents with the kill limit on 30 after having all our towers destroyed and dominated we still ended up winning. They had 3 kills to our 30. At the time all we used was Regulus since we couldn't find a niche with generals at all, then we decided to just try varying the play style and now we are owning hard against nightmare opponents with others as well. I think people play something they don't expect, or something thats different and they don't know how to deal with it. Online play is worse fot that, why? Your playing a human player. The AI is coded to a logical action/reaction sequence. With Regulus for example, even a nightmare opponent I would simply "run" lead them behind two of my towers, and they would stop attacking me and attack my towers after I got out of there range. Then with his ranged weapon, I finished them off. A human player doesn't play like that always. Not to mention, human players make decisions other may find stupid, odd or "whacky" which can also throw the strategies of your gameplan off. From looking at it, every Demigod has strenghts and weaknesses. Every Demigod can do some things effectively and others not, if you micro manage the proper items, the proper skills or even some odd ones you can become properly effective with them. I don't see one Demigod as overpowered at all.

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lol this thread...seriously...Extacide vs and his main point is actually perfect but he just has to throw the twist in so you keep replying to a dead issue...We haven't played on a tournament level for long enough or in enough numbers to clearly establish class imbalances. Probably still a good month away from that, especially since they took organized team play out of stat rankings...By tourney 10 we should have a rough idea of what works and even there the furthest I'll predict will be to say that Generals are vital on any team with more than 1 player. You heard it here first, folks..

Back OT - Tweak the armor debuffs to deal with stacking - that's the only imbalance we are gonna see with Erebus in high level play. No one is playing seriously enough to exploit it yet but it will be very strong when we finally get around to it...

You can beat Erebus in 1 v 1 as Regulus pretty consistently until players start developing good minion micro. It comes down to Farming+Mines and Mark. I like to have 6 mines right in front of me and 3 more ready to trigger, but that's just me. All your pew pew Angelic Fury builds failing don't mean the vamp is OP or even that he's a hard counter - Just means you have to figure some stuff out without a build order taped to your monitor...

If you do want a hard counter play against Erebus as a shield/penitence Oak...not really much he can do against that without some serious minion micro (which you can counter likewise), and not even the good Erebs I've seen have ever really had to learn that.

Notice a theme with the strong minion micro? Yah, that's where the true test will come in - can any Assassin survive against a General who knows how to use his pets? We'll have to find out, but I guess that's offtopic, sorry - please continue ^^

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i was fighting 1 erebus which had a fucking wierd build he had 4500 hp and a powerfulbite and the stun move it was op but it was a wierd most people get the teleport too

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Quoting Xinoxlx,

reply 7

Quoting VenomKing, reply 6
Quoting chris701, reply 5"Erebus is soft like butter. "

Nice hyperbole but wrong. Erebus is by far the easiest DG to keep alive, just use bite for more health or teleport out the area with bat swarm.

Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.
It also drains 125 mana per second, chances are he won't have the mana for the cooldown he's waiting for.

Usually doesn't matter. The enemy has to sit outside the mist, and he won't know exactly when you are coming out of it. Its very difficult to judge when to start attacking again, and Erebus can frequently get away.

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Quoting chris701,

reply 14

Quoting Xinoxlx, reply 7
Quoting VenomKing, reply 6
Quoting chris701, reply 5"Erebus is soft like butter. "

Nice hyperbole but wrong. Erebus is by far the easiest DG to keep alive, just use bite for more health or teleport out the area with bat swarm.

Played a lot of games where Erebus never died once.

Not only this, but the mist form can also save your ass to gain several seconds for teammates to come or for a cooldown.
It also drains 125 mana per second, chances are he won't have the mana for the cooldown he's waiting for.

Usually doesn't matter. The enemy has to sit outside the mist, and he won't know exactly when you are coming out of it. Its very difficult to judge when to start attacking again, and Erebus can frequently get away.

well i usually when im playing i charge into them he un mists and runs i folo up behind taking the dmg

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Kestrel, stop giving away all of my strategies. Generals being OP, armor debuff stacking, minion micromanaging... all key parts to my domination. Once people start learning I'll have to go back to playing Queen of Thorns again just to win.

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Lol sorry Micah - I figure no one is paying attention to this thread anyway, but word will get out eventually and QoT needs some love, seriously, no one plays her - you should post a guide so I can play with Bramble Shield backup again even if you aren't around ^^

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Usually doesn't matter. The enemy has to sit outside the mist, and he won't know exactly when you are coming out of it. Its very difficult to judge when to start attacking again, and Erebus can frequently get away.

For us people who aren't legally blind, it's pretty simple. When you see Erebus, mist is done. Mist = drain mana, so it's not likely he'll bat form away, either.

Derrr derr i suck at this game i cant put two and two together

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erebuses bite i just faught a dude but his bite made me walk extremely slow i mean i was walking slower then a a snail and got killed i thought it was kinda fucked up he slowed me so much i could barely move

it says it does like a -30% but it felt like alot more my dude was barely moving hmm this is strange

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erebuses bite i just faught a dude but his bite made me walk extremely slow i mean i was walking slower then a a snail and got killed i thought it was kinda fucked up he slowed me so much i could barely move

it says it does like a -30% but it felt like alot more my dude was barely moving hmm this is strange

Do you ever use punctuation, or do you simply prefer to post in long, continuous sentences that never end?

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Quoting Extacide,

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erebuses bite i just faught a dude but his bite made me walk extremely slow i mean i was walking slower then a a snail and got killed i thought it was kinda fucked up he slowed me so much i could barely move

it says it does like a -30% but it felt like alot more my dude was barely moving hmm this is strange

Do you ever use punctuation, or do you simply prefer to post in long, continuous sentences that never end?

no i dont use punctuation nore do i care about it

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Quoting Ke5trel,

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QoT needs some love, seriously, no one plays her

Real man play with boobs *cough*... I mean, QoT.... uhh... hmm... never mind.

Jokes aside, I wonder if most people don't play QoT because they feel a little ashamed?

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i know plenty of peeps who play qot, though they all go for varying bramble builds...

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Quoting Fhoeng,

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Quoting Ke5trel, reply 17QoT needs some love, seriously, no one plays her
Real man play with boobs *cough*... I mean, QoT.... uhh... hmm... never mind.

Jokes aside, I wonder if most people don't play QoT because they feel a little ashamed?

I don't play her cause she's boring and her minions don't work properly. (tell shamblers to attack a tower and you'll see.) That and sedna's heal is better then bramble considering it does damage at max rank while bramble require an extra 4-5 points to do the same. That and sedna just has better support abilties.

@chris I'll just walk through mist and wait on the side closest to your side, so even if you bat swarm through me you're still in my melee and ability range. Mist is a dodge or an attack, it's not a hiding ability, as unless your teams there to help you just probably killed yourself. The enemy demi has all the time in the world to wait for your mana to run out.

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Yep he has all the time in the world in your theorycrafted make believe game where demigods only fight each other in 1 vs 1, but in an actual game with other demigods and minions he doesn't have time at all.

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