This doesn't bother me at all.

I'm starting to feel like, what's the point of playing a game if you have nothing to "really" lose. Plus in EVE you can always get insurance for you "uber-ship" so even if it dies, it's no big loss.

Starquest, looks pretty graphically lacking, I at least want a pretty game.

And I've honestly decided I do not want a Fantasy based game, I am done with them.

WoW, honestly has no appeal to me. It's full of young kids; it's too cartoony; I hate its combat system, and its Fantasy. At least the one thing I can say for EVE is the demographics are mid to upper 20's. Probably due to the steep learning curve. Which, being mid to upper 20's I really enjoy.

If you guys want to keep posting Fantasy RPGs here, go ahead, as I'm sure other people reading this may be interested, but I won't be swayed.

I have 11 days before I have to activate for EVE. Anybody know of a showstopper that I just haven't found? I've been looking for months. I just kept coming back to the same game.

If you haven't tried any of them yet, I'd suggest Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, or EVE: Online they are radicly different, but both are great, and well worth their money.

DEAD!

In short, go back to the whinefest that is the Warhammer Alliance Forums.
Sometimes it's a pity WAR doesn't have any official forums, so we could just keep all the douches in one place.

Edit: To the OP, if maturity is what you're looking for, EVE Online is your absolutely best bet. Just remember that while the average age is higher than most other MMOs, it's an extremely unforgiving game and it can take time getting into. You'll hear a lot less "HAHA KK LOL!" in chats, a lot less whining and griefing, and a lot more "real-life" backstabbing, thievery, and so on.

Starquest online is $9.99

I had a lot of fun playing EvE but left due to the chronic lack of roleplaying tools. I may even come back once they get ambulation and the ability to get out of your ship in.

That said, a couple of things to do if you do try out EvE:

-get rid of the PvP shakes - the best way to do that is to rig up a fast frigate of choice (Tech I), go to Arsehole Land (0.0 sec space) and play Dodge with the pirates and anyone who wants to shoot you there, which is pretty much everyone. Lots of fun, you get to die a lot but if you keep your clone up to date and your ship cheap but relatively quick, you get used to it. And getting used to dying in EvE is step numero uno if you want to blow up people later on in the game.

-get cozy with a good crew - EvE can be played solo, but if you want to have a whole new world opened up to you, get yourself in a good corporation that suits your gameplay style.

-don't piss off Minmatars

That's pretty much all the essential things you need to know about EvE!

If Warhammer 40,000 Online was out...I'd say that but, just to be pre-emptive.....40K ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the Greater Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you want non-fantasy sci-fi games, look up the f2p game of ace online, its pretty good, only, its one of those item mall games.  its like a fighterplane game in about 2000 yrs....

well, i took the plunge, as i joined a corp, they flushed my pockets with coin, and i subscribed. but feel free to keep the thread alive for others who might want ideas.

thanks everyone

I dont like twitch combat. Flight sims and the like bore me. Manual targeting? We don't even have that on current airplanes. We fire and forget

EVE for me

Don't mention the... SWG. What you have today is not SWG, it's a WoW clone with a Star Wars skin. Yes, at one time SWG was *the* best MMORPG out there, with unique character customization, expansive worlds, player driven economy (I still remember playing a Trando hunter and fulfilling crafter orders for high quality skins) and numerous roleplaying tools.

Then came the NGE and threw all that through the window.

SWG RIP.

When they add ambulation, EvE Online will be the king of MMO's. If they ever add avatar combat and planet landing, it will actually become probably the best Sci-Fi game of all times. The latter is unlikely though.

But then, there is always Infinity...

Wait a minute, you mean like spamming only LRM frigs and nothing more? Making a game last 30 min instead of 4-8 hrs like it was intended? Stripping a game of its intended mechanics and making just like any other RTS?

Well. I've played a LOT of MMO's. And some genres I haven't touched at all. But if you want the slightly less typical MMO's:

1: Eve Online. Yes, it's mentioned allready, but I'm going for a complete list here. And EVE Online is both good, and different from any other MMO out there, which is a good thing. The game economy is amazing, and realistic enough you have 'stock market trading'. I had a good laugh the first time I noticed people was investing in minerals to manipulate prices, for instance. That picture earlier with its learning 'curve' being a wall of death was accurate though.

2: City of Heroes/Villains. Superheroes, minimal emphasis on economy / crafting, max emphasis on storyline, cool powers / abilities, and combat. Mainly instanced missions, Uniquely, your starting abilities never get outdated; old abilities improve, new abilities are specialized versions. Almost totally PvE, though, but each enemy type use different tactics, weapons, abilities - leads to you having to adapt a lot, which is fun. I keep returning to this game every once in a while simply because it IS unique. And good. But not something to keep playing for months and months without break. (Currently playing a villain). Most unique 'class': Villain Masterminds.

Trial link: http://www.cityofheroes.com/trial/index.html

3: Istaria (formerly Horizons). Near death, I figure, and quite dated, but a somewhat unique MMORPG - one of the few games where you can actually play a dragon. We're not talking 'draconian' style dragon - basically a guy with scales -either but a huge, blot out the sky, raining fire and brimstone from above kind of dragon. Also, a very nice community, decent events.

Trial link: http://community.istaria.com/pg.php/download

4: Pirates of the Burning Sea. Also clearly different, very good naval combat system, it has ambitions of being an age-of-sail player's Eve online, I suspect; in that regard EvE has it beat in nearly every area EXCEPT that its actual ship combat is much better, and POTBS has an easier learning curve + better PvE. Which is not insignificant details.

Trial link: http://www.burningsea.com/pages/trialKeys/

There's plenty of others out there - honorary mention should go to Tabula Rasa (Currently on deathwatch, they're pulling the plug early next year - kind of sad, tried the trial earlier and it has evolved into a very nice game), Lineage 2, Auto Assault (R.I.P.), Earth and Beyond (R.I.P, long ago), EQ2, Matrix Online, SWG (Whoever's bright idea was it to change the entire system completely halfway through? It's one of the very, very few MMO's that gets WORSE over time instead of better! Every nice feature has gradually been removed! Now it's a balanced generic hell... some changes, yeah, they were necessary, but others? WTF...).

One game I have my eye on is Armada Online. Armada was an old dreamcast game but two of the developers purchased the property outright and are now making an mmo out of it. Its quite fun but there is not much to do as of yet because the game is very much in alpha testing.