I really like your Idea but I like the combining items way to.

I suggested you should be able to see others items in my UI thread.  But just the items, not their damage, attack speed, or armor.  But you could guess waht those stats are based on their items.
I wouldn't mind if you could see all that info on an enemy.. but i'd prefer not.
Should certainly be able to see allies though!

I'd like to see synergy between items too.   The only current synergy is how 100% attack speed is double damage, +100% damage is double damage, but both is 400% more damage. heh..

Or synergies between items and skills, that is easier to do.

Like i said with the "all %chance skills get 10% higher chance" thing that could synergize with lots of skills, and items too!

25% lightning becomes 35%.  15% stun chance becomes 25%.

Synergy = goooood.  Proper synergy makes it pretty impossible to "crack" balance.  "cracking" balance is bad!

Right now we already cracked the balance pretty much in our current build in like 3 days   At least we think we did

I think the atk spd is as Aspartem said. More to add, i think only percentage activated skills work like you think innociv e.g. Lightning strike

Wow this is the first time I have seen this how do you activate the blacksmith menu

Why does every item need to have nothing but +bonus stuff. If they are going to implement this upgrade system I suggest adding penalties with the bonuses. Like +attackspeed, - damage. Good if you have a stun item or something that procs for example, or just wanna kill creeps fast and dont have an AOE. Or +damage, - attackspeed, good if you wanna spam skills as attack speed doesnt really matter then and you just want pure damage. Similar with items, +manaregen -healthregen. Great for a nuker who sits back out of the fight and nukes. -cooldown, - attackspeed. Similar, nuker or skillspammer can spam skills fast but takes a hit to regular attackspeed.

These are just examples obviously but they could be set up so that you can still specialise your character but there will be costs to it. As it is right now you can specialise but you are still as strong in every other aspect as everyone else.

The penalty is spending gold, generally.

I'm not against some things having penalties, like how evade was making you dodge heals.

I don't disagree though, Subjagator, I mean really it makes a lot of sense.  +attackspeed and +damage multiply together on your DPS, so it would be good to have +attack speed give less damge because +attack speed also makes %chances trigger more often.
And if the powerful -cooldowns had a downside, that might be good too, like slower cast speed, higher mana usage, less attack speed, yeah.

I'm fine either way though, myself.  I don't know if I've feverishly fight for one or the other.

You might want to make a thread about that after beta2 though!  I hear in beta2 they're redoing like all the items pretty much.

It's actally not much of a choice unless the ring is somehow unique.  Otherwise, you use the ring, then buy another.  At which point you're just wasting time and adding complication.

OTOH, if the ring is unique, then yeah, it's a valid idea, assuming you want unique items.

This was a great post! I need to read the Demigod Ideas forum a lot more.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but the receipe scrolls in DOTA suck, the only reason they were done that way is because it was a MOD of another game and that was the easiest way to upgrade items without needing to mess with the game's code or write a new upgrading interface.

The way Demigod handles items and their upgrade paths could far surpass DOTA in terms of intergration.

I'm a big DotA fan, and I think that a lot of things in DotA should be in Demigod simply because they add too much to gameplay and fun to leave out, but that doesn't mean it's perfect. I really like your idea because it gets the basic functionality of the item recipe system in dota (smaller items upgradeable into bigger ones in progressive parts) without the difficulty inherent in DotA's system.

But yeah, I agree that things should only be added from DotA if they are actually the best way to do whatever it's supposed to do.

Well not really minutes.

It would take a much larger database of items in dota to do this than recipes.. many times larger.  It'd make the file size way bigger I'm quite sure and might slow down the game.

For every possible +stat or bonus to the item in WC3 you have to create a whole new item to go in the list of them.

Recipes are much simpler to mod in in wc3.
"If have
this, this, this,
then make
this"

no i haven't but i've looked around and i'm pretty sure how that works..

with combines you're taking 3 items or whatever to make one, just need 1 extra item in the database.

to do like in this thread.. you'd need to make 8 items in the database for every one unless i'm very wrong.   I'm no expert on wc3's modding

Original poster has great idea /signed

The recipe system got the + that it adds another depth to items, the buildup.

but that is not neccessarily the best solution, and it´s a new factor tobalance, so I like the 3 path-solution, too.

about 5 boots: Why not check the inventory, if you got boots already? If you got, you can call the other 4 boots "Boot enhancement" or something more creative :/ .

That´d make some new icons needed, though (24*4, any1 ?).