Not far from the truth.    I can't speak for everyone, but I joined because of the atmosphere and story line.

Also, Kzinti Patriarch has some charisma that I can't put my finger on. Maybe he should run for office.

If you don`t make it into politics you at least can tell your prospective employer that you have enormous leadership abilities - you once were a great Patriarch of a huge interstellar Empire called "Kzinti Empire". That does extremely well on a job application i think

hey KP, are you saying that I'm a smarmy, slimy person for doing politics?

aww thanks. now i don't feel so bad for accepting all those bribes from lobbyists

Thanks Sethpenguin. We dont hate the Geckodon Alliance, we just really enjoy chasing around all those little squiggly lizards, and eating them. It's the natural way of things. So that may make you hate Kzinti, but we're glad to have such entertaining and abundant prey animals...those wiggly tails are just so alluring!

Sentient species taste better...

This post makes a couple of points that I find troubling. Being a child of the 60's, I personally recommend an "attitude adjustment". I'm not sure folks today understand the reference but if you do then I'm sure you'll know what I'm talking about.

First off in my own humble opinion there is no place for hate in the Metaverse. Personally, if I had to choose between a good teammate and a good opponent, I would choose a good opponent. A good teammate is both a brother and comrade the value of which is hard to over-estimate. But without a good opponent there is simply no point in battle at all. What honor accrues from beating up on the weak and helpless? The stronger your opponent, the greater your victory.

However, in the end there is no ultimate victory. The battle hasn’t ended merely because Kzinti has reached number 1 in the Metaverse or even because they’ve been number 1 in the AltMeta for four months. The battle is still ongoing and the quickest way to lose is to assume that you’ve won.

I was among the first to congratulate the Kzinti for their accomplishment of reaching 1st place in the Metaverse. The Kzinti do the Diplomats and all the other empires honor by being worthy opponents. However, the battle will continue.

The other aspect of the reply I found troubling was the “they had it coming”. I’m really unsure what prompted this. To the best of my knowledge no Diplomat treated 1st place as some kind of exclusive right nor did any Diplomat display any kind of arrogance over the position nor did they look down on any other empire simply because at the moment we happened to be in first place.

I’ve been a Diplomat since shortly after I started playing the game approximately 20 months ago and during that time the Diplomats have spent more time out of first place than in it. However during that time period one thing is definite and that is that no empire has been competitive for as long as the Diplomats have been.

Before my time the Diplomats and the Overmind traded 1st place more than once. When I started there were the Orcas who exchanged first place with the Diplomats a number of times. Then came HCH and again 1st place went back and forth. Now it’s Kzinti’s turn. The Diplomats say welcome and congratulations. However, my only question is where are the Overmind, the Orca’s and HCH now? I can’t say where Kzinti will be in a year but I can guarantee where the Diplomats will be in a year. I can’t guarantee we will be number 1 but I can guarantee that we will still be trying.

I understand that no Kzinti made any such statements about hate or “they had it coming”. I also understand that Sethpenguin and the Gecko’s probably meant nothing by the comments made other than normal good natured taunting. However I did have to say my piece in response. No harm intended.

Mumble, I too think you took that a little too seriously...

Judging by these forums, I'm beginning to doubt any empire will still be rolling a year from now. The metaverse has helped keep the game interesting, but the reality is the game's short comings / bugs / lack of polish have got me to the point I can see not playing anymore at all.

The sad thing is I would never have said that about GC (on OS2, which I kept around just for the game) or GC1.

I just pray they get TA right, so this discussion matters at all a year from now.

I didn't take it seriously. See the smiley faces and my closing remark. I simply took it as an opportunity to deliver a Kirk-ian soliloquy.

Am I not allowed a bit of the role playing as well?

Gallagher, maybe you need a break from the game until ToA is fully released and MV compatible. I first played GC2 (DL) maybe a year and half ago, but no Metaverse games. I played quite a few games, and then stopped and began playing some other games for a while. I went back and played Rome: Total War, which I had played a lot before, and also Medieval II: Total War....love those games! Something about forging the Roman Empire is especially captivating for me. Then DA came out and I created the Kzinti, and started submitting MV games. My interest in GC2 has not slackened, and I know I'll be around for the duration, running the Kzinti, and playing games. I may be playing some other things at the same time too. There is never enough game-time in the day! I havent tried ToA yet, because I'm waiting for the MV compatability.

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You've never heard a Kirk-ian soliloquy?

Every episode of the original series featured at least one, often more.


I was absolutely and totally serious about the points I made.

However, I didn't take Sethpenguin's comments *that* seriously. I took them to simply be the normal inter-empire taunting that can often just go fractionally over the line. I was in no way personally offended by his comments, I simply felt they expressed two points that are simply not in the best interest of the metaverse and to which I felt obligated to respond.

I'm totally serious about there being no room in the metaverse for actual animosity between empires. There has in the distant past been such actual animosity and I believe it does not serve anyone.

I'm also totally serious about the necessity of having skilled and honorable competition. Without credible competition playing in the metaverse is meaningless.

You seemed to agree with both of these points and that's good.

However, your "I think you are taking Sethpenguin's post too seriously" response seemed rather much like an admonition and in my opinion nothing I said deserved admonishment.

Again I am not taking any personal offense from such a slight admonishment and in all likelihood it was not even meant that way. However even if not meant as an admonishment I hope you can see that it could be easily be construed as one. In any case as you say ... don't worry about it.

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What the heck happened with my above post? Somehow it got included as part of Kzinti's reply. I'm trying "Add A Reply" instead of using the reply button below the post to see if it works normally. In any case I'll be happy when these forums start working properly again.

[edit] No joy. Perhaps this is due to the unbalanced quote tag in Kzinti's post. Oh well. I wonder if this thread is Borked from now on.

I did put in a request for the web team and/or Kryo to see if they can fix the thread.[/edit]

Mumble, when I made my last post, the formatting was screwed up, and I couldnt even view the last page of the post. Every time I tried it crashed my browser. I immediately contacted Kryo to have someone hopefully fix it, and it looks like they did. Thanks for contacting them too. I often seem to have trouble with the formatting since the forum upgrade. Im glad the thread is working properly again.

As for what we were actually talking about to begin with, I think we've all said what we needed to, so I'm good with it.

Now I'm sort of wary of using the quote function...I dont want to break the thread again!

Sethpenguin, I've never played that game. What sort of game is it?

Sentient species taste better...

Kzinti= Kay Zin Tee or depending on regional accent "Keh Zen Tee" would also be an acceptable variant

An RTS